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Poet: I can’t answer questions on Texas standardized tests about my own poems

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Re: Poet: I can’t answer questions on Texas standardized tests about my own poems

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Post by forgotpwtomain »

hueving wrote: post #220
forgotpwtomain wrote: post #206

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Are you really not trolling? Likewise you haven't provided any motivation as to why the Civil War should be taught in history class instead of last year's American Idol winners (If you tell me prominence in popular or cultural memory, than indeed Shakespeare occupies the same place). Shakespeare endures well because he endured for the readers, theater goers, actors, authors, poets, artists, film-makers and academics…

No, I'm not trolling. I'm pointing out that there seems to be very little objective criteria for choosing what poetry to consume. So far it seems your argument is that it's taught because "that's the way it has been done". The civil war is taught in the US because it had a huge impact on the development of the country. The tensions in the south today relate directly to it (confederate flags still fly today). American…

Shakespeare's work has had a broad and enormous impact on art and culture through out the centuries (English and Foreign) - that you are aware of the impact of the civil war (you were taught) but not the former (Wikipedia is a reasonable starting point), is a gap in culture and education but the point stands analogously.

Re: Poet: I can’t answer questions on Texas standardized tests about my own poems

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Post by JorgeGT »

taneq wrote: post #193
samirillian wrote: post #192

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I remember hearing a similar story about the adaptation of "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" into Blade Runner. Ridley Scott was convinced that the protagonist was a replicant. Philip K Dick (and Harrison Ford) disagreed. In my mind, Scott had the more "cinematic" interpretation, and Dick had the more "novelistic" interpretation.

Do you think this is the source of the ambiguity in the movie? I was never convinced either way, even after rewatching the whole thing recently with the possibility in mind from the start. I think it was well done either way.

If I'm not mistaken, didn't the protagonist receive a Voight-Kampff test in the original novel? I remember thinking at the moment that this was a reflection on how Philip K Dick wanted to assure us that humans were very capable of evil (he was apparently very moved by the Holocaust), that the Blade Runner didn't have the excuse of being an automaton to justify the cold blood "termination" of sentient beings.

Re: Poet: I can’t answer questions on Texas standardized tests about my own poems

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Post by justifier »

justifier wrote: post #150
GrinningFool wrote: post #112

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Do you think it would have ended the same failed exam if you did that research first and included it in your interpretation?

there's more to the story.. lie by ommission the course was set up that we would read a work and then write a one page response in class here is where i voiced my distaste for chaucer 'creating', as was presented to our class, this story while appreciating shakey's subversion of the material this garnered the 'f' for my opinions about love forlorned then at the end of each four week period we would, in lieu of exams,…

i went back and found this old entry from my university days and it turns out i only used the three works: shakespeare, chaucer and boccaccio; as basis for comparison in the paper, stead all four

Re: Poet: I can’t answer questions on Texas standardized tests about my own poems

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throwaway729 wrote: post #153
Noseshine wrote: post #117

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The professor knows Melon did not write the essay So the F actually is for not doing the work, not for the submitted paper. Whatever the professor said was not the reason why he gave an F, given the context it was aimed at the cheater! Which is why he gets an F.

That's part of the conceit of Melon -- that his dishonesty is somehow justified/excusable because someone else is also imperfect...

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Re: Poet: I can’t answer questions on Texas standardized tests about my own poems

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Post by Noseshine »

toast0 wrote: post #170
Noseshine wrote: post #109

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it could be better that you learn a commercially dead language first. Why? It does not follow from your argument, you just make that claim - one that I find very strange.

Because you will not learn the first assembly as well, code you write in the first language is going to be worse than what you write in the second language you learn (even after you learn the second one). It is better to learn one and throw it away.

You seriously claim you have to learn a "dead assembly language" in order to learn it right? Can an argument possibly be any more ridiculous? Can it even be called an "argument", or is it just random noises at this point?

Re: Poet: I can’t answer questions on Texas standardized tests about my own poems

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Post by [deleted] »

throwaway729 wrote: post #153
Noseshine wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The professor knows Melon did not write the essay So the F actually is for not doing the work, not for the submitted paper. Whatever the professor said was not the reason why he gave an F, given the context it was aimed at the cheater! Which is why he gets an F.

That's part of the conceit of Melon -- that his dishonesty is somehow justified/excusable because someone else is also imperfect...

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Re: Poet: I can’t answer questions on Texas standardized tests about my own poems

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Post by [deleted] »

throwaway729 wrote: post #153
Noseshine wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The professor knows Melon did not write the essay So the F actually is for not doing the work, not for the submitted paper. Whatever the professor said was not the reason why he gave an F, given the context it was aimed at the cheater! Which is why he gets an F.

That's part of the conceit of Melon -- that his dishonesty is somehow justified/excusable because someone else is also imperfect...

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Re: Poet: I can’t answer questions on Texas standardized tests about my own poems

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Post by [deleted] »

throwaway729 wrote: post #153
Noseshine wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The professor knows Melon did not write the essay So the F actually is for not doing the work, not for the submitted paper. Whatever the professor said was not the reason why he gave an F, given the context it was aimed at the cheater! Which is why he gets an F.

That's part of the conceit of Melon -- that his dishonesty is somehow justified/excusable because someone else is also imperfect...

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Re: Poet: I can’t answer questions on Texas standardized tests about my own poems

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Post by [deleted] »

throwaway729 wrote: post #153
Noseshine wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The professor knows Melon did not write the essay So the F actually is for not doing the work, not for the submitted paper. Whatever the professor said was not the reason why he gave an F, given the context it was aimed at the cheater! Which is why he gets an F.

That's part of the conceit of Melon -- that his dishonesty is somehow justified/excusable because someone else is also imperfect...

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Re: Poet: I can’t answer questions on Texas standardized tests about my own poems

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Post by [deleted] »

throwaway729 wrote: post #153
Noseshine wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The professor knows Melon did not write the essay So the F actually is for not doing the work, not for the submitted paper. Whatever the professor said was not the reason why he gave an F, given the context it was aimed at the cheater! Which is why he gets an F.

That's part of the conceit of Melon -- that his dishonesty is somehow justified/excusable because someone else is also imperfect...

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