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I'm at Fog Creek, and we're introducing Gomix

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Re: I'm at Fog Creek, and we're introducing Gomix

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Post by brudgers »

thenomad wrote: post #169
chvid wrote: post #115

This mostly seems to be about a new CEO at Fog Creek. I have never heard of him but appearantly he has a big following. And it appears that a very large number of people don't like him - enough to create a bunch of new accounts here at HN just to comment on his persona. Fog Creek has to me always been about Joel on Software. And to me they always got a lot of credit and extra attention to their products because of hi…

The HN discussion of the product - was it this one? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13116426 Just thought the link might be useful for folk interested in reading more about that.

There was also a discussion when it was announced as Hyperdev: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11808911

Re: I'm at Fog Creek, and we're introducing Gomix

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Post by anildash »

tomc1985 wrote: post #176

It's a little odd to read a "programming is just so gosh darn hard" sales pitch from Fog Creek.

That might be my fault if I wrote this poorly. What I was trying to say was closer to "programming is fun, but all the prerequisites it takes to get code running these days aren't very satisfying".

Re: I'm at Fog Creek, and we're introducing Gomix

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Post by Stratoscope »

anildash wrote: post #220
Stratoscope wrote: post #32

Anil, I don't know you, and you certainly don't know me. But I have a word of advice. When you join a company a few weeks before it releases a new software product, have the humility to admit that you had precious little to do with it. Don't write about yourself, at all! Write about the product, what it can do for me, and the amazing team who built it. I'm going to go way out of line and do a bit of a hatchet job on…

Put simply, this was my personal blog post, so it was about me & my feelings about the moment. On our company blog, or on Medium, we (as Fog Creek) wrote about the Gomix product and the only mention of me was a little blurb at the bottom. Both of these choices seem appropriate to me.

Thanks for the levelheaded reply. After reflecting on it a bit, I think you and WhitneyLand are right. It would have been a different thing if this were the company blog, but this was your personal blog, so of course it's completely reasonable to talk about yourself.

I was out of line, and I am sorry for the harsh tone of my comments.

Re: I'm at Fog Creek, and we're introducing Gomix

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Post by therein »

jc4p wrote: post #195
therein wrote: post #61

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This sounds forced/scripted beyond belief. It really reads like an Amazon review written in exchange of a product: > I love my FooBar 2001. I spent the past weekend migrating my dishwasher's contents into my new FooBar 2001 and it was a very pleasant experience. I was intimidated by how much work it would be at first but to my surprise it was A BREEZE. I'm so happy now with my new Foobar 2001 that I will probably use…

I mean... I work for a related company (as mentioned in the post)... sorry for being excited about something they're working on? I just felt the need to comment because a lot of the comments remind me of my first impression of the product before I really gave it a chance. I was so angry they were working on it, they started working on it after a quiet period following the Fog Creek / Trello split and my first impress…

Definitely should have started the other comment with this. :)

Happy new year.

Re: I'm at Fog Creek, and we're introducing Gomix

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Post by anildash »

Stratoscope wrote: post #223
anildash wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Put simply, this was my personal blog post, so it was about me & my feelings about the moment. On our company blog, or on Medium, we (as Fog Creek) wrote about the Gomix product and the only mention of me was a little blurb at the bottom. Both of these choices seem appropriate to me.

Thanks for the levelheaded reply. After reflecting on it a bit, I think you and WhitneyLand are right. It would have been a different thing if this were the company blog, but this was your personal blog, so of course it's completely reasonable to talk about yourself. I was out of line, and I am sorry for the harsh tone of my comments.

No problem — that's context that may not have been obvious with the way the link was posted. Thanks for being willing to reconsider! Hope you'll check out Gomix, too. :)

Re: I'm at Fog Creek, and we're introducing Gomix

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Post by throwaway-hn123 »

notfreeyet wrote: post #47
osium598 wrote: post #28

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Anil Dash is one of the most notorious social justice warriors in the tech world. It's unfortunate Fog Creek made him its CEO - I don't predict the company will flourish under him, since he seems more concerned with promoting an airy political agenda than with making good products. He's non-technical (I don't think he's ever written a line of code in his life, and knows next to nothing about the actual craft of build…

According to this other post this Anil guy has attempted to bully and blackball a founder from our industry. http://www.lorenfeldman.com/anil-dash-is-a-coward-liar-and-b... If this is true, and it seems true, no founder in Silicon Valley should do business or in any way support Anil Dash in anything. I would chastise Joel Spolsky and that other guy too, but it seems unnecessary given the destruction they're inflictin…

Using Loren Feldman as a source. LMFAO.

Re: I'm at Fog Creek, and we're introducing Gomix

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Post by mjolk »

anildash wrote: post #150
mjolk wrote: post #69

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Someone pushing their social network to come here and upvote.

Nah, if we'd have done that it certainly wouldn't have been while I was asleep and over a major holiday.

I wasn't implying you directly, as it seems (from comments in this thread), that you are benefitting from a wave of PC-pressure. The internet-collectivist movement is strong, so it could have quite easily been a fan.

In any case, it's cool that you're responding to a thread about your blog. I wish you and yours nothing but health and happiness in 2017 from here in Russia.

Re: I'm at Fog Creek, and we're introducing Gomix

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Post by statictype »

hnbro wrote: post #194
statictype wrote: post #127

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That IS the very definition of inserting race into a discussion unnecessarily. I was only trying to refute the accusation that he was racist. That seemed pretty absurd. Don't have anything to say about your position. I haven't spoken to him personally.

> That seemed pretty absurd ...why?

Identifying someone's race doesn't make you a racist.

Observing that some races have historically enjoyed more or less privilege than others isn't racist either.

Re: I'm at Fog Creek, and we're introducing Gomix

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Post by hnbro »

statictype wrote: post #228
hnbro wrote: post #194

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> That seemed pretty absurd ...why?

Identifying someone's race doesn't make you a racist. Observing that some races have historically enjoyed more or less privilege than others isn't racist either.

this is both reductive and a red herring.

Re: I'm at Fog Creek, and we're introducing Gomix

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Post by adamryman »

jszymborski wrote: post #2

I really like the spirit of this, and I hate to be the gnu in the room, but the only thing holding this back is that it's centralised. Again, I totally get how that might sound stupid. "How can we have nice things if we always need to solve the decentralisation problem first?", is one of a billion reasonable responses to my comment, but I'm just a guy who has gotten his heart broken before by the likes of Geocities,…

This comment made me laugh a lot.

So I made this:

http://i.imgur.com/OJ3ZgDD.jpg

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