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2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Post by pimlottc »

Lio wrote: post #152
CountSessine wrote: post #148

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You can get C-c to be pretty much identical with a little remap :imap Remapping caps lock would be good too, but I already have caps lock remapped to Ctrl and I'm just used to that. In anticipation of what seemed like the inevitable loss of my escape key, I've been trying really really hard to like Ctrl-[ the last three weeks, but I've just given up. I keep opening up Ctrl-P searches or hitting Ctrl-]. My pinky just…

> You can get C-c to be pretty much identical with a little remap > :imap True but you're still out of luck in other Vi like places. As an alternative I used Karabina in the past to map Caps lock into Esc (when pressed and released) and Ctrl (when pressed with another key). I think you could also make it latch as Caps lock by using Caps-Shift but I'm not 100% on that. Does anyone know if Karabina has been updated to…

I assume you mean Karabiner. Their page still has a notice that it doesn't work with macOS Sierra.

https://pqrs.org/osx/karabiner/

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Post by undersuit »

randallsquared wrote: post #194
undersuit wrote: post #188

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>When the display goes to sleep, it disconnects all the devices on the hub. This is a problem for external disks, as the OS complains that it has been detached without being ejected first. I hope LG fixes this in a future firmware version. Is there a monitor that doesn't suffer this issue? My Dell's USB hub power is linked to the monitor power. I can't plug a mouse into the monitor if I want to use that mouse to wake…

My Philips bdm4065uc Doesn't seem to have this issue, or, at least, I've never noticed a problem waking my Mac by wiggling the mouse connected to it.

The next time I'm looking to spend a bunch of money on a monitor I'll definitely keep in mind this feature.

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Post by eruditely »

otterley wrote: post #9

We bought a 15" 2016 Macbook Pro ("Retina" is redundant; there are no 2016 MBPs that lack a Retina display.) We also bought a LG 27UD88-W monitor to go with it. (It's one of the few that has a USB-C input.) I have to say, I'm really impressed by the single-cable solution. The monitor charges the laptop (57W maximum, which is less than the Apple charger, but "good enough"), and the laptop sends both video and USB peri…

"I have to say, I'm really impressed by the single-cable solution. The monitor charges the laptop"

Is this a new feature? I've never heard of monitors charging laptops before.

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Post by npunt »

otterley wrote: post #9

We bought a 15" 2016 Macbook Pro ("Retina" is redundant; there are no 2016 MBPs that lack a Retina display.) We also bought a LG 27UD88-W monitor to go with it. (It's one of the few that has a USB-C input.) I have to say, I'm really impressed by the single-cable solution. The monitor charges the laptop (57W maximum, which is less than the Apple charger, but "good enough"), and the laptop sends both video and USB peri…

> (2) When the display goes to sleep, it disconnects all the devices on the hub. This is a problem for external disks, as the OS complains that it has been detached without being ejected first. I hope LG fixes this in a future firmware version.

This is why I'm quite disappointed that Apple exited the display business. Small issues like this highlight the different scope of LG and Apple business models. As a display manufacturer, LG is primarily concerned with a display that works well in its primary use (e.g. when it's on) and much less concerned about secondary uses - it's not really their problem. Apple, on the other hand, is concerned with the overall user experience, and has designed their business model around this (including cost centers like customer service / genius bar appointments). LG just feels a lot less pain on this issue than Apple would.

Hopefully Apple can find a way to preserve a certain level of user experience now that they're no longer manufacturing. There's no MFi certification equivalent for Mac, but it seems like there should be.

This is probably also relevant for wifi routers, now that they've left that business too.

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Post by [deleted] »

tolger wrote: post #201
kaypro wrote: post #180

I just got back from returning my 15" 2.6 i7 with Radeon 450. First time I've returned an Apple product ever. The build quality of the machine is superb. TouchID, display, keyboard and SSD are fantastic. There's something going on with the GPU's... I'm putting my money on the Intel HD but the framerate is extremely slow. Just scrolling a simple web page in Safari stutters considerably. I tried using gfxCardStatus to…

Excellent, concise review. Thank you. There are so many compromises with this machine, I am going to skip this generation.

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Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Post by eruditely »

I'm sure you long-time mac users are a little disappointed with the current generation of macbook pros, but as a long time ubuntu-linux user, I feel that linux distro's have comprehensively fallen behind the times and am excited to be with everyone else and have a macbook pro. It's like when I had an android for a long time, and I actually thought androids were competitive, and then when I switched to an iPhone 6 it was an incredible difference, all things considered it was just a superior experience and phone. I had no idea that it was that much better, and was unsure how people ever talked about androids vs iPhones like they were even, I'd had an android for 4 generations.

I'm assuming OSX vs linux distro's like ubuntu is the same thing. The sum of the little things must make you a lot more productive. I cant wait to be honest. I just need to decide, 13 inch vs 15.

When you do everything 1-off, like different phones than every one else, different clothes, different hobbies, don't listen to mainstream music even if it's fun you really get left behind in life & it's a lonely affair.

It was a nice change when one morning I woke up after a long time of running my life in a different direction than every one else that I got to hit traffic with every one else. "Oh, this is where every one is, thank god". I think it's a bad idea to do everything 1-off for some minor advantage in your head.

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Post by Freestyler_3 »

ajford wrote: post #218
Freestyler_3 wrote: post #129

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What do you think the effect of constant charging will be on battery life in the long term?

Assuming a properly engineered device, the battery shouldn't actually be constantly charging. It should intelligently switch between power sources, as well as enabling and disabling charging of the battery as needed. I think what is more of a concern would be the possibility that some laptops now tend to unthrottle the CPU when on AC power (or more accurately throttle their already LV CPUs when on battery), which can…

Yes, apple has been quite good with batteries.

Indeed part of battery quality is to let the device manage when charging happens, but a big problem is that the device is expected to be charged when being hooked up to a charger for a bit. You don't want customers to walk away from home thinking they have a charged device, but end up only being able to use the device for a short time.

I guess there is some well thought out system to it.

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Post by Bud »

eruditely wrote: post #223
otterley wrote: post #9

We bought a 15" 2016 Macbook Pro ("Retina" is redundant; there are no 2016 MBPs that lack a Retina display.) We also bought a LG 27UD88-W monitor to go with it. (It's one of the few that has a USB-C input.) I have to say, I'm really impressed by the single-cable solution. The monitor charges the laptop (57W maximum, which is less than the Apple charger, but "good enough"), and the laptop sends both video and USB peri…

"I have to say, I'm really impressed by the single-cable solution. The monitor charges the laptop" Is this a new feature? I've never heard of monitors charging laptops before.

It's part of the benefits of Thunderbolt (and now, USB-C). The Apple Thunderbolt Display also charged Mac laptops via its built-in MagSafe cable.

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Post by illumin8 »

mamon wrote: post #212
illumin8 wrote: post #67

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From what I've heard, many USB3 interfaces have been causing Wifi and Bluetooth reception problems for a few years now. This is due to electromagnetic interference in the 2.4ghz. spectrum. I wouldn't expect a high-end Apple product to have this issue though; this is the type of problem you expect from cheap beige box PCs.

How about using Wi-Fi in 5 GHz channel ? Should solve the issue, shouldn't it ?

You're right, it should solve the issue, however, there are a couple things at play:

1. If you have a newer wifi AP that supports 5ghz, it might allow you to create a separate SSID for 5ghz, which is great, because now you can specify which network you want to connect to, and can choose the 5ghz. band to avoid this interference. Some routers don't let you specify, and use the same SSID for both bands, which means you can't really tell what you're connecting to.

2. Unfortunately, 5ghz. has a shorter range, so it will be less reliable in large houses, or where coverage is weak.

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Post by Freestyler_3 »

r00fus wrote: post #171
Freestyler_3 wrote: post #129

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What do you think the effect of constant charging will be on battery life in the long term?

Do you connect your laptop to a monitor without also connecting the charger? My MPB is used in 2 ways: on a desk or lapdesk without any peripherals, or with 3-4 connectors (including hub/monitor and charger).

I did before, but in that setup I turned the laptop screen off.
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