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Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Yeah, the whole hybrid thing went really well with Windows and Surface series was a success.

I agree with the fact the the windows10/surface idea is the best for my use and purposes but... I would not call it a success, at least not commercially. The surfaces aren't selling so well atm, even after already 3 iterations.

Pretty sure that was the parent's point. But the short-term results may not be what is relevant. Plenty of good decisions were lambasted in the short-term because consumers aren't always the best judge of what will happen down the line. People overrate what will happen in 1 year and underrate what will happen in 5.

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This a million times. Apple is just slowly re-inventing the Desktop OS (hey look multi-tasking, a keyboard, etc) while MS went full into a hybrid OS over all its lines that can adapt to whatever hardware its installed on. For all the grief MS got for Windows 8, the move it made was ultimately the right one and builds the proper foundation they need for the future. As side note, lets recall about three or four years a…

Yeah, the whole hybrid thing went really well with Windows and Surface series was a success.

Surface seems to be doing pretty well. I'm sure even better when compared to other PC manufacturers.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-surface-hits-1bn-reve...

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Yeah, the whole hybrid thing went really well with Windows and Surface series was a success.

I agree with the fact the the windows10/surface idea is the best for my use and purposes but... I would not call it a success, at least not commercially. The surfaces aren't selling so well atm, even after already 3 iterations.

/s

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The announcements today just make me hang my head in chagrin. I love Apple products. Both my wife and I only use Macbooks, we have multiple iPads, iPods, and a second generation Apple TV. I look at this iPad Pro though and I see a totally useless device. For a device at that size, weight, and cost you would be better served buying an Macbook Air. If you want a tablet form factor then you would be better served buying…

> For a device at that size, weight, and cost you would be better served buying an Macbook Air.

Fortunately, the Macbook Air still exists, so you can buy that. I wouldn't personally really have a use for this thing either, but I'm sure some people would.

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Apple got it right because they were the first to charge 99 bucks for it.

Correct. Until now, a pencil was $50. http://shop.fiftythree.com/?cc=CA

Also $50 for a Surface 3 pen

http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/Surface-...

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It is interesting comparing Microsoft and Apple's convertible tablet strategy. Microsoft's devices use the full OS and are basically laptops first and tablets second while Apple is doing the opposite. If this is truly designed to be "Pro" as in enterprise , I think Microsoft's strategy is going to lead to more productive and therefore better enterprise devices. EDIT: And after the price is revealed the scales tip a l…

None of that really matters though. It's all about the applications. If you need to run Windows software, buy a Windows machine. If the applications you depend on require iOS, buy an iPad. Other non-software features (like battery life and weight) matter as well. Price doesn't really matter though.

What professional applications require ios?

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Because those systems have no good touch enabled software.

A lot of artists use Surface Pros.

Until now, Surface Pro had no competition in this specific niche, except some Android devices that are likely inferior in hardware and app support. Now it does. Every app for iPad is designed for touch from the start, including the Photoshop port etc., meaning the touch experience for artistry will be better; the question is whether the inability to switch to a trackpad afterward for more precise editing and more complex functionality will outweigh this.

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Speaking as an artist who uses the Surface Pro 3 for all of my work, an iPad Pro will be useless without the right software. And as great as Procreate might be, it's not Photoshop and will never be Photoshop. Without the ability to run full desktop apps, this would never be much more than a toy for me.
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