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Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

#211

I wonder if the existing hidden emails I already have in iCloud will be changed over too. If that's not the case, I'm just going to use one of the 50 throwaway addresses I already have.

The announcement the article linked said Existing addresses on the legacy domains will continue to work and forward mail to users without interruption.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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If you mean "set up an equivalent service" under your own domain, that's both less private and more likely to be blocked; there are a lot of services which, unfortunately, only allow sign-ups from big, well-known domains.

>there are a lot of services which, unfortunately, only allow sign-ups from big, well-known domains. I have never encountered one.

Ars Technica is one you can test I believe. I think I had to register with Gmail and put in a support ticket to ask them to change it to my real email. I use Fastmail, not a selfhosted setup or anything, some services absolutely have a domain allowlist for email signup.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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If you don't mind trusting another company with forwarding your emails, it's definitely less hassle to set up an equivalent service for yourself.

If you mean "set up an equivalent service" under your own domain, that's both less private and more likely to be blocked; there are a lot of services which, unfortunately, only allow sign-ups from big, well-known domains.

I have had my own domain for mail for 10 years. I have yet to ever see a service which didn't let me sign up with it. I'm willing to believe that such services exist, but I dispute the claim that there are a lot of them.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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> If you use iCloud+ and Hide My Email, there is still time to generate more aliases on @icloud.com as the change has not yet landed and the rate limit for creating aliases is at least 30 per hour. Part of the reason to use Hide My Email was that it made keeping myself private hassle-free. Making a system to pre-generate values and then catalog them for later use is quite the hassle.

Yeah, I have several dozen already—I suppose I can reuse those forever… I guess it's kind of cool having one-per-site though so you can tell who the "rat" is when one of your hide-my's gets spammed.

I have over 300 so far. In addition to knowing where spam is coming from, and being able to block it, it also helps prevent correlation across accounts and websites as data leaks occur.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Nah. I have hosted my domain for 17 years on google and then fastmail. The hosting is harder than private relay, although not too hard. But I have only had maybe 3 services ever reject my domain, and those were because the domain contains a number.

Within the space of 2 weeks I had both Etsy and Mapbox block signups with Proton Mail aliases. The practice is rapidly becoming more common.

Blocking signups from proton.me is not the same thing as only allowing signups from the big mail providers.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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> If you use iCloud+ and Hide My Email, there is still time to generate more aliases on @icloud.com as the change has not yet landed and the rate limit for creating aliases is at least 30 per hour. Part of the reason to use Hide My Email was that it made keeping myself private hassle-free. Making a system to pre-generate values and then catalog them for later use is quite the hassle.

If you don't mind trusting another company with forwarding your emails, it's definitely less hassle to set up an equivalent service for yourself.

You can sort of do this today with iCloud. Add a custom domain and enable the catch-all forwarding, and you can receive anything@domain.tld and it’s forwarded to you.

What you’d lose is the reply-to forwarding feature.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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The problem is if someone figures it out and starts sending you spam to {random}@domain.tld. That's when you will need to sit down and start creating actual aliases for all those used email addresses and stop the catch-all forwarding:) Also, another downside is that you will loose privacy by using your own domain. And the lack of privacy makes targeted scam/phishing more likely, and targeted scam is the one we are mo…

I have run this for years with very little problems. And I can honestly say that have not found anyone writing to addresses I did not give them at their domain. Simple as this is, it is way to niche for companies to figure it out and exploit it. And if that really was a problem I'd just create a new subdomain. If you are worried about privacy, get a domain just for this. Use domain privacy and dont host other things…

> I have run this for years with very little problems. And I can honestly say that have not found anyone writing to addresses I did not give them at their domain. Simple as this is, it is way to niche for companies to figure it out and exploit it.

Someone I knew did this. Spammers used lists of common names.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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If your website will block me out because I used a privacy friendly email, I want nothing to do with your website.

I frequently buy a domain that I think is funny and use that to forward all my emails to my main email account. It's trivial to do from Cloudflare. Then after that 1 year is up, my domain goes away and so does all of the spam.

And the not spam?
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