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Re: Pgbackrest is no longer being maintained

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Post by artyom »

SwellJoe wrote: post #201
briffle wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The project has never even had a donation button on its page, only a link with a few sponsors.

The effort to setup donations is almost always more trouble than the donations that result are worth. Better spent looking for a job, or working on a commercial project that will make money. People simply don't donate to open source projects at a level that matters. I've been working on Open Source software for 30+ years. There's no money in it, if your idea for making money is "accept donations". I don't like it, bu…

Second this. There's no money in donations. Also the target demographics for donations is individuals, who rarely donate and are kind of desensitized to the whole thing at this stage (as everyone and their mother asks for donations).

Companies need to jump through legal and accounting loopholes to donate, they very much prefer a simple purchase, which is nice! But setting up actual purchases is a whole different ordeal with open source, now the question is why is the company paying for something that's free?

Source: my own 5-stars open source project with 500k+ active users that paid for 3 coffees in total over 10+ years. I still get like $2 sometimes after a long while.

Re: Pgbackrest is no longer being maintained

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Post by artyom »

ellieh wrote: post #168

I wish it was easier to know which projects are in desperate need of funding because I love pgbackrest and totally would have donated here, and I suspect many others would have too :/

> know which projects are in desperate need of funding

keyword: desperate... until the metric becomes the target, and stops being a good metric.

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Post by trueno »

radimm wrote: post #76

This is the message the author posted on LinkedIn: After a lot of thought, I have decided to stop working on pgBackRest. I did not come to this decision lightly. pgBackRest has been my passion project for the last thirteen years, and I was fortunate to have corporate sponsorship for much of this time, but there were also many late nights and weekends as I worked to make pgBackRest the project it is today, aided by nu…

Damn this sucks. Snowflake bought crunchydata right? I know they largely did that because they wanted to push crunchydata's datalake extension past some sort of proverbial finish line as they've been competing with databricks for features, but snowflakes pressers about commitment to open source and postgres in general (which are ofc something no one should take that seriously) feel even more sad when it blows out the floor underneath projects like this which are undoubtedly part of the same postgres extension ecosystem. Snowflake went after crunchydata for that _one_ extension while neglecting the broader world that crunchydata was keeping alive. They can champion support OSS and postgres all they want but they hurt the ecosystem here, kind of a slap in the face to the postgres world.

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Post by lmm »

rowanG077 wrote: post #155
saadn92 wrote: post #139

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Why does sqlite not suffer from the same risk?

They have more sponsors/clients so a single company changing direction wouldn't kill them. They also sell directly if you want to buy from them. But ultimately the risk still exists.

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radimm wrote: post #76

This is the message the author posted on LinkedIn: After a lot of thought, I have decided to stop working on pgBackRest. I did not come to this decision lightly. pgBackRest has been my passion project for the last thirteen years, and I was fortunate to have corporate sponsorship for much of this time, but there were also many late nights and weekends as I worked to make pgBackRest the project it is today, aided by nu…

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Re: Pgbackrest is no longer being maintained

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Post by abrookewood »

infinet wrote: post #188
joshmn wrote: post #25

I have a moderately sized 2TB production database I have enjoyed using pgBackRest on, and was—this week—going to set it up on another 8TB database we have. What's the next-closest thing? wal-g? barman? databasus? I only get to cosplay as a DBA.

Anyone put the standby on ZFS or other filesystems that can take snapshots for backup?

A previous company I was at did this on the primary. It always seemed to work, but no one was really comfortable with it, largely because there wasn't too much ZFS experience at the time and also because the process did not coalesce the database before doing it. I think it's still a valid strategy, but not one I have had time to verify thoroughly.

Re: Pgbackrest is no longer being maintained

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Post by killingtime74 »

dotBen wrote: post #120

It's funny how developer time is considered free, but tokens are not. In other words when it comes to FOSS contribution, developer time can be donated but tokens can't - so as we move into agentic code era all FOSS development carries a cost unless it is purely done by hand (which more often it isn't). Not saying this is what is going on here but it's presumably a factor if the author was looking for an employer to s…

https://claude.com/contact-sales/claude-for-oss open source maintainers can get this.

Chatgpt also has similar https://developers.openai.com/community/codex-for-oss

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