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I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by Analemma_ »

tgma wrote: post #96
Analemma_ wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, you are the one lying trying to get political gotchas here. There is no "trying to exert veto power" absolutely anywhere, Anthropic's terms were laid out in the contract the Pentagon signed, which they want to forcibly amend. If they didn't like the terms, they didn't need to sign the contract.

What are you suggesting here? US government breaching the contract already signed? I am not aware of that happening here. > Anthropic's terms were laid out in the contract the Pentagon signed, which they want to forcibly amend. It's called negotiation in business. I am sure both sides are clear-eyed on what the consequences were and Anthropic made a calculated bet (probably correctly) that some segment of their emplo…

You seem really unaware of the timeline of this issue and what has actually happened, I think you should update your info before posting so confidently wrongly.

The contract, including Anthropic's redlines, was signed more than a year ago and has been humming along with no objections from anybody. Hegseth abruptly got a bug up his ass about it last week, and demanded Anthropic sign a revised version under threat of punishment. Anthropic is simply saying "no, we will not be forced into signing a new version, you can either keep going with the original terms we all agreed to, or stop using us". The Pentagon can simply stop using Anthropic if they don't like the terms anymore (which, again, are the terms Pentagon agreed to in the first place). But what the DoW wants is to strong-arm Anthropic, using the DPA, into new terms because they abruptly changed their mind. That's not "negotiation" in any sense, that's Mafia behavior.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by Timshel »

deadbabe wrote: post #93
labrador wrote: post #17

Good. I'd rather not have my favorite AI from a company working on AGI to have murder and spying in it's DNA. In fact, as a patriotic American veteran, I'd be ok with Anthropic moving to Europe. It might be better for Claude and AGI, which are overriding issues for me. Rutger Bregman @rcbregman This is a huge opportunity for Europe. Welcome Anthropic with open arms. Roll out the red carpet. Visa for all employees. Eu…

Europe doesn’t give a shit about another American company and their employees trying to dominate their markets and import their workaholic American culture. They will tell Anthropic to go home.

Not sure where you are in Europe, but in France, Macron would bend over backward.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by blibble »

tombert wrote: post #99

I had the co-founder of Levels and current head of the US Treasury Sam Corcos reach out to me a few weeks ago for a job. I was initially kind of excited because I had really wanted to work for the Treasury a couple years ago, so I took the phone call with him. He called me and he seemed like a nice enough guy, but I realized that he's one of the DOGE/Elon acolytes and he started talking about how he's "fixing" the Tr…

don't worry

it won't be the world's bank for very long

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by next_xibalba »

kevinh wrote: post #190
next_xibalba wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If we were able to give the Ukrainians fully automated kill bots, and those kill bots enabled Ukraine to swiftly expel the Russians from their territories, would that not be a good thing? Or would you rather the meat grinder continue to destroy Ukraine's young men to satisfy some moral purity threshold? If we could give Taiwan killbots that would ensure China could never invade, or at least could never occupy Taiwan,…

The thing about building fulling automated kill bots is then you've built fully automated kill bots.

Fully automated kill bots are coming, whether any of us like it or not. The question is, which militaries will have them, and which militaries will be sitting ducks? China is pursuing autonomous weapons at full speed.

Personally, I think it'd be great to have the Anthropic people at the table in the creation of such horrors, if only to help curb the excesses and incompetencies of other potential offerings.

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Post by dentalnanobot »

dham wrote: post #150
labrador wrote: post #17

Good. I'd rather not have my favorite AI from a company working on AGI to have murder and spying in it's DNA. In fact, as a patriotic American veteran, I'd be ok with Anthropic moving to Europe. It might be better for Claude and AGI, which are overriding issues for me. Rutger Bregman @rcbregman This is a huge opportunity for Europe. Welcome Anthropic with open arms. Roll out the red carpet. Visa for all employees. Eu…

AGI? My guy, it's a text predictor slot machine. Very useful tool but will never be AGI.

Pretty rich coming from an AGI that’s running on a bowlful of mildly electrified meat. Emergent properties, my guy.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by whatsupdog »

__del__ wrote: post #73
techblueberry wrote: post #2

So they are such a risk to national security that no contractor that works with the federal government may use them, but they're going to keep using them for six more months? So I guess our national security is significantly at risk for the next six months?

the administration which declares ad-hoc emergencies is behaving as predicted

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Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by ctoth »

noosphr wrote: post #165
cal_dent wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The team that handles their PR has done an amazing job in the last 9 months

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Do you think that bad things happening is just hilarious in general? Do you like to see good behavior punished? I'm really trying to understand what you get out of making this comment. Also what happens when ... This doesn't happen? You just polluted the epistemic commons a bit more with some cynical bullshit sans consequence? Enough. I think it's time to start calling this garbage out when I see it.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by sowbug »

mbgerring wrote: post #122

Can we all take a big step back and just ask why the DoD wants to use a fundamentally unreliable technology to guide deadly weapons?

They don't. They want to punish a company for expressing values that introduce friction to the whims of the current administration.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by nomilk »

> Anthropic's two hard lines:

> 1. No mass domestic surveillance of Americans

> 2. No fully autonomous weapons (kill decisions without a human in the loop)

Surveillance takes place with or without Anthropic, so depriving DoW of Anthropic models doesn't accomplish much (although it does annoy Hegseth).

The models currently used in kill decisions are probably primitive image recognition (using neural nets). Consider a drone circling an area distinguishing civilians from soldiers (by looking for presence of rifles/rpgs).

New AI models can improve identification, thus reducing false positives and increasing the number of actual adversaries targeted. Even though it sounds bad, it could have good outcomes.

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