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Screenshots from developers: 2002 vs. 2015 (2015)

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Re: Screenshots from developers: 2002 vs. 2015 (2015)

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Post by torginus »

adalacelove wrote: post #57
Almondsetat wrote: post #24

RMS to me is really a curious case. He doesn't know how to install GNU+Linux and relies on others to do it. He doesn't know how to take a screenshot, and I remember reading other snippets from him about not knowing how to perform other basic tasks.

Most screenshots for these well known guys are quite boring. Coincidence? I think if you want to be good at something you need focus.

So you're telling me my juiced-up i3 with the anime girl and equalizer in the background doesn't make me the hacker wizard I thought I was?

Re: Screenshots from developers: 2002 vs. 2015 (2015)

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Post by smsm42 »

jll29 wrote: post #129
jasongill wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I met RMS at the Atlanta Linux Showcase in 1998. In the area with vendor booths in the lobby area of the show, he had laid down a blanket and was sitting in the middle with his legs crossed. He had printed copies of man pages printed and stapled together with covers laid out in front of him. I walked up and introduced myself and said that I was a big fan, appreciated his hard work, etc. He looked at me coldly and jus…

I met RMS at a lunch in his honor at an Edinburgh vegetarian restaurant with very high ranking scholars/academics present, after an invited talk of his. Everyone was talking, eating, drinking and having a good time, whereas he was sitting at the head of the table doing email on his ThinkPad (yes, in text mode). So I walked up, I introduced myself and asked a question about the freedom of _data_ versus the freedom of…

I totally get it. If I were famous I probably would do that all the time (fortunately I am not). I don't hate people, I just don't need to always talk to them. Sometimes I just don't want to talk to people, especially ones I don't know. I'd rather... well, do anything else, but by myself. Sometimes I am OK to talk to other people, but it's my choice, not one of a random person. Email is much better because you can choose when you send the mail, when you read the mail, and you don't have to perform on demand (for an introvert, social interaction is hard work).

Re: Screenshots from developers: 2002 vs. 2015 (2015)

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Post by epolanski »

jll29 wrote: post #129
jasongill wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I met RMS at the Atlanta Linux Showcase in 1998. In the area with vendor booths in the lobby area of the show, he had laid down a blanket and was sitting in the middle with his legs crossed. He had printed copies of man pages printed and stapled together with covers laid out in front of him. I walked up and introduced myself and said that I was a big fan, appreciated his hard work, etc. He looked at me coldly and jus…

I met RMS at a lunch in his honor at an Edinburgh vegetarian restaurant with very high ranking scholars/academics present, after an invited talk of his. Everyone was talking, eating, drinking and having a good time, whereas he was sitting at the head of the table doing email on his ThinkPad (yes, in text mode). So I walked up, I introduced myself and asked a question about the freedom of _data_ versus the freedom of…

I have met few famous devs and eventually it seems most turn like that.

One explained me that they are bombarded non-stop by people for years and years and at the end they'd rather be mean than "waste" their time on the rare chance of having a meaningful interaction.

The overwhelming majority of their interaction ends up with people asking them for opinions about their projects, collaborations, etc, and it gets so tiring that they statistically prefer to lose the chance of having a nice meaningful interaction rather than take the chance of yet another waste of time.

I know it's mean, but I get it.

Not saying they are all like that, just saying it's quite common among famous developers, they are bombarded non stop by people wanting to chat.

Re: Screenshots from developers: 2002 vs. 2015 (2015)

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Post by epolanski »

seec wrote: post #169
jasongill wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I met RMS at the Atlanta Linux Showcase in 1998. In the area with vendor booths in the lobby area of the show, he had laid down a blanket and was sitting in the middle with his legs crossed. He had printed copies of man pages printed and stapled together with covers laid out in front of him. I walked up and introduced myself and said that I was a big fan, appreciated his hard work, etc. He looked at me coldly and jus…

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I don't think he's a communist, and even if he was, I doubt a political ideology you may share ideas with has anything to do with how you interact with people.

Re: Screenshots from developers: 2002 vs. 2015 (2015)

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Post by epolanski »

Almondsetat wrote: post #24

RMS to me is really a curious case. He doesn't know how to install GNU+Linux and relies on others to do it. He doesn't know how to take a screenshot, and I remember reading other snippets from him about not knowing how to perform other basic tasks.

I write software and use computers from ages, but put me in front of any app I haven't authored and I have no clue how to do things.

Often I find that apps have features only because I see others using the application.

Make me do anything on applications banking/government/delivery-related and I have to ask family members.

Re: Screenshots from developers: 2002 vs. 2015 (2015)

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Post by bdangubic »

epolanski wrote: post #215
Almondsetat wrote: post #24

RMS to me is really a curious case. He doesn't know how to install GNU+Linux and relies on others to do it. He doesn't know how to take a screenshot, and I remember reading other snippets from him about not knowing how to perform other basic tasks.

I write software and use computers from ages, but put me in front of any app I haven't authored and I have no clue how to do things. Often I find that apps have features only because I see others using the application. Make me do anything on applications banking/government/delivery-related and I have to ask family members.

haven’t authored or just don’t use? I would assume that tools that you use you know inside and out (e.g. Code or IntelliJ)

Re: Screenshots from developers: 2002 vs. 2015 (2015)

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Post by smsm42 »

PaulRobinson wrote: post #173
jll29 wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I met RMS at a lunch in his honor at an Edinburgh vegetarian restaurant with very high ranking scholars/academics present, after an invited talk of his. Everyone was talking, eating, drinking and having a good time, whereas he was sitting at the head of the table doing email on his ThinkPad (yes, in text mode). So I walked up, I introduced myself and asked a question about the freedom of _data_ versus the freedom of…

I put him up for the night on my sofa once. When you do this, you get his "rider". Google it, it's real, it's infamous for the "don't buy me a parrot" section. Anyway, in that, he makes clear that if people at dinner are not interested in talking about free software, he's going to pull out his laptop and get on with his work relating to free software. He doesn't care about fancy food, drinks, etc. - he wants to raise…

> think free software needs a new figurehead.

It's not like politician's post, where random people can just decide to run for it. We don't really have many people that do what he does.

Re: Screenshots from developers: 2002 vs. 2015 (2015)

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Post by smsm42 »

tedggh wrote: post #152
RealCodingOtaku wrote: post #145

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Unsure why this is a reply to the OP, the only thing common is RMS and nothing else. But, RMS is known to be socially awkward, the same goes for many autistic individuals. It's just that he doesn't mask and comes out as “rude”. If send an e-mail, he will usually take his time to write down a succinct response.

I know a few autistic people including one of my nephews. They are different in some ways particularly when they are very young and are still struggling with expressing their emotions. But none of them are arrogant and disrespectful. I think you can be autistic and also a jerk, one doesn’t justify the other.

I know somebody who smoked a lived to be 90 years old, therefore all that they speak about harms of smoking are lies.

You realize people are different, and your knowledge of tiny number of data points tells you very little about people who aren't those people you know?

Re: Screenshots from developers: 2002 vs. 2015 (2015)

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Post by smsm42 »

jagged-chisel wrote: post #139
iberator wrote: post #126

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Why? Nroff/troff is literally designed to be printed with CUPS or Postscript etc etc etc You can also literally cat > /dev/ printer

Don’t forget the firmware

If there's a printer with OSS firmware, Stallman likely owns it.

Re: Screenshots from developers: 2002 vs. 2015 (2015)

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Post by smsm42 »

seec wrote: post #169
jasongill wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I met RMS at the Atlanta Linux Showcase in 1998. In the area with vendor booths in the lobby area of the show, he had laid down a blanket and was sitting in the middle with his legs crossed. He had printed copies of man pages printed and stapled together with covers laid out in front of him. I walked up and introduced myself and said that I was a big fan, appreciated his hard work, etc. He looked at me coldly and jus…

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I am the least likely guy to defend communists, but come on. It's not even clear he is a communist, and if you need to dunk on communists, you could find much, much better targets. His personality has nothing to do with his political views, and there are a lot of smooth talking and suave communists. It's just a cheap shot, which doesn't do good to anyone.
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