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Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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for every theory of relativity the is the religious non-sense and superstitions of the medieval ages or today

> for every theory of relativity the is the religious non-sense and superstitions of the medieval ages or today If Einstein came up with relativity by standing on "the religious non-sense and superstitions of the medieval ages," you'd have a point.

If we have billions of AIs one might pick the correct learning materials. Same way human Einstein did.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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The slop is getting worse, as there is so much llm generated shit online, now new models are getting trained on the slop. Slop training slop, and slop. We have gone full circle just in a matter of a few years.

I was replaying Cyberpunk 2077 and trying to think of all the ways one might have dialed up the dystopia to 11 (beyond what the game does). And pervasive AI slop was never on my radar. Kinda reminds me of the foreword in Neuromancer bringing attention to the fact the book was written before cellphones became popular. It's already fucking with my mind. I recently watched Frankenstein 2025 and 100% thought gen ai had a…

I had the same experience, watching a nature documentary on a streaming service recently. It was... not so good, at least at the beginning. I was wondering if this was a pilot for AI generated content on this streaming service.

Actually, it came out in 2015 and was just low budget.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Are you aware of Kagi (kagi.com)? With them, at least the AI stuff can be turned off. Membership is presently about 61k, and seems to be growing about 2k per month: https://kagi.com/stats

Be aware of: https://www.reddit.com/r/SearchKagi/comments/1gvlqhm/disappo...

I find this amusing, because it seems like Kagi's target audience dislikes this (politically polarized), and I as someone who is not Kagi's target audience likes this (politically neutral).

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Are you sure it works the same way for documents that Google indexed at the time of publication? (Because obviously for things that existed before Google, they had to accept the publication date at face value).

Yes, it works the same way even for content Google indexed at publication time. For example, here are chatgpt.com links that Google displays as being from 2010-2020, a period when Google existed but ChatGPT did not: https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Achatgpt.com&tbs=cdr%3... So it looks like Google uses inferred dates over its own indexing timestamps, even for recently crawled pages from domains that didn't exist…

Interesting, thanks.

I wonder why they do that when they could use time of first indexing instead.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Are you aware of Kagi (kagi.com)? With them, at least the AI stuff can be turned off. Membership is presently about 61k, and seems to be growing about 2k per month: https://kagi.com/stats

How does Kagi know what is AI stuff? I don't see how they can 'just turn it off'

It's driven by community ratings.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45919067

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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The other day I was researching with ChatGPT.

* ChatGPT hallucinated an answer

* ChatGPT put it in my memory, so it persisted between conversations

* When asked for a citation, ChatGPT found 2 AI created articles to back itself up

It took a while, but I eventually found human written documentation from the organization that created the technical thingy I was investigating.

This happens A LOT for topics on the edge of knowledge easily found on the Web. Where you have to do true research, evaluate sources, and make good decisions on what you trust.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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How does Kagi know what is AI stuff? I don't see how they can 'just turn it off'

It's driven by community ratings. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45919067

so it is like humans vs robots started? robots ask humans questions to verify they are not robots. humans mark content as robot-generated to filter it out.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Projects like this remind me of a plot point in the Cyberpunk 2077 game universe. The "first internet" got too infected with dangerous AIs, so much so that a massive firewall needed to be built, and a "new" internet was built that specifically kept out the harmful AIs. (Or something like that: it's been awhile since I played the game, and I don't remember the specific details of the story.) It makes me wonder if a ne…

I share an opinion with Nick Bostrom, once a civilization disrupting idea (like LLMs) is pulled out of the bag, there is no putting it back. People in isolation will recreate it simply because it's now possible. All we can do is adapt.

That being said, the idea of a new freer internet is reality.. Mastodon is a great example. I think private havens like discord/matrix/telegram are an important step on the way.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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> This is a search tool that will only return content created before ChatGPT's first public release on November 30, 2022. The problem is that Google's search engine - but, oddly enough, ALL search engines - got worse before that already. I noticed that search engines got worse several years before 2022. So, AI further decreased the quality, but the quality had a downwards trend already, as it was. There are some atte…

ML and AI killed it between 2011-2016 somewhere. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Internet_theory

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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The government's where the offices of a software company are physically located exert control over them. To follow this logic to its end and apply it even handedly results in nation based NIH syndrome surely?

You are talking about an entity whose ownership is 99.8% Russian nationals and state companies; whose employees for the most part are Russian nationals, whose main market is Russia and with very little tangible assets that can be arrested in the Netherlands. The only reason for this "divestment" is sanctions evasion.

you clearly don't know anything about nebius

They have a lot of hardware in e.g. Finland. I don't think they provide GPU access to the russian companies, feel free to correct me

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