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Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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Post by robin_reala »

clcaev wrote: post #191
robin_reala wrote: post #188

Remember that you can delete your Meta accounts and have nothing to do with them. It’s not hard to do.

> Remember that you can delete your Meta accounts and have nothing to do with them. It’s not hard to do. This means deleting real-world social connections. Meta owns the interwoven communication hubs of many local communities. Let me provide an example. My swim team coach uses WhatsApp for all communication, including frequent pool schedule changes. They have strongly resisted change, as it is too much work to get 50…

I didn’t say you should delete your account, I said you can. There will of course be downsides, but it’s a choice you can make if the negative factors tip the balance.

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Post by loloquwowndueo »

nelox wrote: post #194
notsydonia wrote: post #163

It's also a huge danger as the system FB uses to tag and categorize photos is clearly flawed. example: Meta took a business page I ran that had over 150K followers offline because of a photo that violated their 'strict anti-pornography' etc etc policies. The picture was of a planet - Saturn - and it took weeks of the most god-awful to and fro with (mostly) bots to get them to revoke the ban - their argument was that…

Venus, in her naked glory, I could understand at a stretch, but Saturn?

Can’t really see much nakedness through all those CO2 clouds.

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Post by Alifatisk »

windex wrote: post #158

zuck needs to fade into irrelevance. The guy hasnt done anything interesting in years. Every few years he raids private data and thinks he can do something with it.

Zucks empire has done a lot in the field of LLMs, I don’t know if local llms would have been possible without their contributions

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Post by jamesponddotco »

huhkerrf wrote: post #80
ants_everywhere wrote: post #6

This is why I requested family not to post pictures of my children on Facebook. They will get to decide what to do with their likenesses when they're older. It seemed cruel to let Facebook train a model on them from the time they were babies until they first start using social media in earnest.

I did the same. And then my mother-in-law decided to ignore my requests. And then my mother got angry. And then I caved.

My mother-in-law did the same, then I cut her off, no more pictures of the kid. She got into the program after that.

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Post by jwr »

microtonal wrote: post #137
jwr wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In some countries (notably Poland) Facebook is so burned into people's brains that you can't avoid this, and if you try, people and institutions will consider you a tinfoil hat weirdo and put pressure on you. Basically every kindergarten, primary school and high school will want to post pictures.

Basically every kindergarten, primary school and high school will want to post pictures. Here (NL) we get a form at the beginning of each school year to mark which uses of photos we find acceptable. E.g. we allow photos in the school portal (which is private and not owned by big tech), but not on Facebook, etc. It's the way it should be done, because there is not much burden on the parents. If the school also wants t…

I am usually the only parent that doesn't want to sign the school media release form. It's a long way...

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Post by jwr »

squigz wrote: post #151
bojan wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Our (NL) elementary school places pictures of the fun activities they do with kids on Instagram, but they blur children's faces, resulting in the photos straight out of the uncanny valley. I do wonder also if the blur effect they use is one of those that can easily be reversed. I need to check that one of these days.

> Our (NL) elementary school places pictures of the fun activities they do with kids on Instagram, but they blur children's faces, resulting in the photos straight out of the uncanny valley. Honestly what's the point at this point? Are parents not going to send their children to that school because they didn't see pictures of blurry-faced children having fun on the Internet, or is this just teachers wanting to post a…

It's a strange idea that schools need to do "marketing" and "promotion".

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Post by n1b0m »

coef2 wrote: post #16

I miss the old days when Facebook was simply a fun way to reconnect with friend and family who lived far away. Unfortunately, those days are gone. It feels like an over engineered attention-hogging system that collects a large amount of data and risks people's mental health along the way.

Don’t forget supercharging the spread of hate such as the harmful anti-Rohingya content in Myanmar

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Post by ben_w »

hedora wrote: post #91
msgodel wrote: post #32

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You'd have to block nearly every app from ever seeing any image you don't want Facebook getting ahold of including apps that are made by other companies. Almost everyone uses their libraries, they practically have a shell on your phone (which is funny because you're not allowed that on your own device for "security.")

As much as I’m annoyed when my iPhone makes me do the dumb “give access to these photos to the app” dance, I’m happy they block that, at least. However, I wish they’d grow a pair and just outright block the FB and other similar dependencies that make such stuff necessary.

> However, I wish they’d grow a pair and just outright block the FB and other similar dependencies that make such stuff necessary.

When the giants fight, which one of them is an evil monopolist, and which is the defender of freedom?

(This is why I actually like the iPhone approach more than the macOS approach these days; thought I do miss the late 90s when I didn't need to care because nothing had any mechanism to spy on me anyway).

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Post by cornfieldlabs »

IshKebab wrote: post #206
cornfieldlabs wrote: post #64

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I am building one with a chronological feed and no public profiles. You need to already know someone to find them here. Check out the waitlist! https://waitlist-tx.pages.dev/ Edit: Here are some rough layout designs https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1uLwnXDdUsC9hMZBa1ysR... It's intentionally simple

Yeah... aside from all the very obvious problems with this (network effects, most friends aren't weird techy no-images types, etc.)... the moment has passed. Nobody is going to trust another tech company with their real name & permanent social life again. They've seen what happens.

True though. We will be adding support for images in the next release.

We can add an option to export all data (in the pipeline) and let users delete account and data in one click (available on first release) but I don't know what else can be done.

End to end encryption is hard and I am not a programmer capable of implementing it safe enough to stop NSA level threats.

We will do what we can.

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Post by LightBug1 »

mitthrowaway2 wrote: post #53
ants_everywhere wrote: post #6

This is why I requested family not to post pictures of my children on Facebook. They will get to decide what to do with their likenesses when they're older. It seemed cruel to let Facebook train a model on them from the time they were babies until they first start using social media in earnest.

Some cultures long avoided being photographed, because they believed the camera would steal their soul. It took the rest of us much longer to realize they were right.

Geeze, well said ... I remember hearing that when I was kid and not thinking much of it beyond respect their wishes.

Now, realising they were 100% right.

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