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I dont get why your QA is better than red hats. They have a much longer experience with their product.
It's cheaper.
Not following. Their QA is cheaper so it must be better?
Oracle launches "a better alternative to CentOS"
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Re: Oracle launches "a better alternative to CentOS"
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Anyone decrying Oracle as "evil" is falling into a trap that I have warned about[1]: they are making the mistake of anthropomorphizing Larry Ellison -- they are infusing Oracle with humanity that it does not in fact have. Oracle is, as another commenter put it, a corporate sociopath. The inability to empathize is fine for a monopolist (and indeed, it's a terrific asset -- and after five months of working there, I con…
What has Oracle done to Java ? As a developer they've done nothing but deliver very welcome new features to the platform and add stability that Sun could never bring.
Litigated.
Re: Oracle launches "a better alternative to CentOS"
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Businesses can be evil. Crushing your competition via patents is evil. Damaging others way out of proportion to your own gain is evil. Buying elections with a flood of money is evil. The Libor scandal is evil because it screwed millions of contracts. Stomping a kitten is pretty tame by comparison.
You're completely warped view on life warrants serious psychiatric help. And surprised that you think defending patents is evil because almost every major IT company right now is doing that.
Non sequitur. If everyone does something and it's an evil thing to do, then everyone is being evil and should stop being evil.
Don't argue that patents are good because everyone uses them. Find a better rationale for your patent love!
Re: Oracle launches "a better alternative to CentOS"
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Agreed. And I think "lock-in" is an unfair characterization. It's not like you can't switch back to CentOS or Scientific Linux.
How so? You guys are providing a script to switch from CentOS to OL, but I don't see a comparable script to switch back to CentOS. Where is the script to easily switch back when Oracle decides to screw everyone over as many have already brought up?
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Re: Oracle launches "a better alternative to CentOS"
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How so? You guys are providing a script to switch from CentOS to OL, but I don't see a comparable script to switch back to CentOS. Where is the script to easily switch back when Oracle decides to screw everyone over as many have already brought up?
druiid: If that happens, I will personally help you switch back any systems you switched over this way :) My email address is in my profile. As for everyone else, yeah, a '--reverse' was somewhere in our set of desired features for the script, but ultimately this became about some combination of "Launch early, launch often" and "MVP", two topics I know we all love here :)
Perhaps I'll take you up on the offer. I actually am one of your hoped cases, where there's the possibility for moving to support at some point. Not the biggest fan of some Oracle decisions, but it's also difficult to justify paying for RH support and using it once every few years.
Re: Oracle launches "a better alternative to CentOS"
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But Oracle actually is evil. Evil is stomping a kitten to death. Evil is the gulag, the concentration camp, the cultural revolution. Oracle is just a business.
And the GP was giving his honest opinion. An opinion that is held by many people I've interacted with in the open source community regarding Oracle. Maybe instead of browbeating him over it you could consider encouraging Oracle to pay attention to things like this and do something about recovering their image. BTW, it isn't illegal in any jurisdiction I am aware of to harbor personal feelings towards brands and compa…
And the GP was giving his honest opinion
I was giving my honest opinion of his honest opinion.
An opinion that is held by many people
These people have a weak grasp of the concept of 'evil'. In my opinion.
Maybe instead of browbeating
I wasn't doing that. My opinion.
You could consider encouraging Oracle
I'm nobody Oracle is going to listen to. I say this as a guy who has been dealing with Oracle for about a decade, supported database and application servers.
Oracle pays attention to guys that write checks. And not just any checks but big checks.
If the CIO of (say) AT&T brings this up with his sales rep, things will happen. Me .. not so much.
BTW, it isn't illegal
I believe you are reading things that I did not write.
Re: Oracle launches "a better alternative to CentOS"
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But Oracle actually is evil. Evil is stomping a kitten to death. Evil is the gulag, the concentration camp, the cultural revolution. Oracle is just a business.
Businesses can be evil. Crushing your competition via patents is evil. Damaging others way out of proportion to your own gain is evil. Buying elections with a flood of money is evil. The Libor scandal is evil because it screwed millions of contracts. Stomping a kitten is pretty tame by comparison.
You have a weak grasp of the definition of evil.
Have a good day.
Re: Oracle launches "a better alternative to CentOS"
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But Oracle actually is evil. Evil is stomping a kitten to death. Evil is the gulag, the concentration camp, the cultural revolution. Oracle is just a business.
Businesses are sociopathic - especially since corporations claim the rights of a "person" under law. Current North American society appears to deem sociopathic behavoir as being evil - so it's not much of a stretch to claim businesses are evil. Not saying they can't act good or do good in society though as many obviously do. It's also worth noting that good/evil are not objective binary things - so your definition of…
Current North American society
If this is an actual opinion held by North American society - whatever that is - then NAs needs to re-think it's definition.
It's also worth noting that good/evil are not objective binary things - so your definition of evil is likely different then the GP's.
Ah.
I hold to the - possibly old-fashioned - notion - that there is good, there is evil, and they are objective binary states.
Re: Oracle launches "a better alternative to CentOS"
#219Ksplice and a few other technical features could make this a technically better choice than RHEL (although I'd focus on adding security features beyond RHEL, which breaks some compatibility).