Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US • Hacker News Board

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by MrSkelter » Sun, Oct 27, 2024, 9:57 AM UTC

sashank_1509 wrote: post #40

The weird thing I’ve seen is in almost all the online forums I visit, like Reddit, YouTube comment sections, parts of twitter, hacker news, the cybertruck is universally panned. Yet when I drove a cybertruck, the number of onlookers who approached me inquiring about the car with excitement is unmatched with even a Lamborghini that I once rented. Shows how much of a bubble the internet alone is. MKBHD got the ratio’s…

People are much more likely to approach you to say something positive than to say something negative.

There’s almost no precedent for a “hit” vehicle at that price point. Toyota stopped selling real Landcruisers in the US because Americans won’t pay that much for something with a Toyota Badge (hence the current real Landcruiser is sold as a Lexus in very low volume).

Tesla are claiming a hit after making people wait 5 years for a vehicle they couldn’t see and then shipping preorders. The preorders have been massively less than they claimed and now the vehicle is with people it is being shown to be of low quality and low capability. Unable to manage tasks Subarus and much cheaper vehicles can.

The proof of its success will be in the coming year. Now buyers are walking in to buy a real vehicle at a real price. The current owners bought a paper spec sheet at a fantasy price and are a self selecting group happy to pay 2-3x over what they were promised.

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by gremlinsinc » Sun, Oct 27, 2024, 10:02 AM UTC

ToucanLoucan wrote: post #107

oniony wrote: post #103

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Yeah, but how many other cars can you revisit the 80s in?

Mine of choice would be the Lamborghini Countach, as long as I don't have to back it up. I'm too old for the Lambo Lean.

But can it also take you back to 1955 or 1855? or 2020...wait... wtf wants to go back to that year...lol

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by StackRanker3000 » Sun, Oct 27, 2024, 10:11 AM UTC

golol wrote: post #210

PoignardAzur wrote: post #111

There was a Cybertruck at the Paris Games Week (there was a Tesla corner in the con for some reason). That was my first time seeing one in person. The most striking thing was how tall it was. Half the kids attending the PGW were smaller than its front bumper. I hope these things never, ever get allowed in France.

It's basically the same size as an F-150. It has a crumple zone although it probabl only activates for hard car collisions. I've seen no evidence that it is significantly worse for pedestrian safety than an F-150. Which is not good at all, but it is still a bit pretentious to paint it as a horribly dangerous car when there is no evidence that it is worse than one of the most common cars in the US.

I assume they don’t have a lot of F-150s in Paris, either.

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by StackRanker3000 » Sun, Oct 27, 2024, 10:18 AM UTC

mfkp wrote: post #158

mattkenefick wrote: post #137

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> we need more mainstream vehicles challenging the boring design "norms" I'd argue that we need to start treating cars like the utilitarian objects they are and stop associating our personalities with them.

We need to start treating PCs like the utilitarian objects they are and bring back beige cases.

Car designs have converged because there are certain properties that are better than others for safety, performance, efficiency, and so on. Those concerns are arguably much more important than aesthetics or the ability to express one’s individuality.

Not really the case for PCs.

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by pvaldes » Sun, Oct 27, 2024, 10:24 AM UTC

trkaqn wrote: post #125

jordanpg wrote: post #47

I would love to see the party registration breakdown of these recent buys. It would be wonderful irony if suddenly buying EVs has become trendy among the right-leaning crowd.

I think it is trendy: Tucker Carlson has been promoting this truck on his YouTube channel in at least two 1 hour videos.

It is a big step from his humble origins promoting tanning balls machines.

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by Neonlicht » Sun, Oct 27, 2024, 10:25 AM UTC

maeil wrote: post #173

skytanks wrote: post #143

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That’s strange since the Cybertruck doesn’t meet European regulations (at the very least UN-R26) due to pedestrian safety. Not sure if there is a workaround if someone imports it as their personal vehicle though.

Obviously it's legal to own and display road-illegal vehicles. Just think about open-wheel racing, including go-karts. Just can't drive them on the road. The truck will have been transported inside a bigger truck or on top of a car transporter.

You can't get road insurance for them either.

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by Neonlicht » Sun, Oct 27, 2024, 10:28 AM UTC

StackRanker3000 wrote: post #213

golol wrote: post #210

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It's basically the same size as an F-150. It has a crumple zone although it probabl only activates for hard car collisions. I've seen no evidence that it is significantly worse for pedestrian safety than an F-150. Which is not good at all, but it is still a bit pretentious to paint it as a horribly dangerous car when there is no evidence that it is worse than one of the most common cars in the US.

I assume they don’t have a lot of F-150s in Paris, either.

Any city built and or designed before cars is a nightmare for giant American pickups.

That said do you see those in Boston or NYC a lot?

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by ulfw » Sun, Oct 27, 2024, 10:33 AM UTC

mensetmanusman wrote: post #86

thebruce87m wrote: post #76

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> She had about two or three tires slashed or had the air nozzle cut off and sentry mode didn't catch anything except the back of the persons head. Who is doing this? Anti-Musk people? Anti-EV people? I’m not from the US so I’m not familiar with the politics.

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Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by golol » Sun, Oct 27, 2024, 10:43 AM UTC

StackRanker3000 wrote: post #213

golol wrote: post #210

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It's basically the same size as an F-150. It has a crumple zone although it probabl only activates for hard car collisions. I've seen no evidence that it is significantly worse for pedestrian safety than an F-150. Which is not good at all, but it is still a bit pretentious to paint it as a horribly dangerous car when there is no evidence that it is worse than one of the most common cars in the US.

I assume they don’t have a lot of F-150s in Paris, either.

Yes I don't think it should be allowed in Europe, yet the outrage I see, also from, Americans, as if this is some new never seen before level of danger on the road is unreasonable.

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by d1sxeyes » Sun, Oct 27, 2024, 11:12 AM UTC

golol wrote: post #210

PoignardAzur wrote: post #111

There was a Cybertruck at the Paris Games Week (there was a Tesla corner in the con for some reason). That was my first time seeing one in person. The most striking thing was how tall it was. Half the kids attending the PGW were smaller than its front bumper. I hope these things never, ever get allowed in France.

It's basically the same size as an F-150. It has a crumple zone although it probabl only activates for hard car collisions. I've seen no evidence that it is significantly worse for pedestrian safety than an F-150. Which is not good at all, but it is still a bit pretentious to paint it as a horribly dangerous car when there is no evidence that it is worse than one of the most common cars in the US.

> I've seen no evidence that it is significantly worse for pedestrian safety than an F-150

Serious question: have you looked? Or is there any special reason you imagine that if such evidence existed, you would have seen it?

I say this because I spent 10-15 minutes looking for information and gave up because I’m not sure of any tests which I could use to compare the two, or any testing bodies that focus on pedestrian safety. If that information exists, I’d be interested to see a side by side comparison.