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Many people want to either tiptoe around or flat out ignore the far right leanings of fascism to avoid what it says about the US
"Leanings"?
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I understand that. It's just that many people still use these passages to the present day to justify bad behavior.
That is what all religious texts and institutions effectively do. Take moral standards of centuries and millennium before and force it on today.
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It reminds me a lot of the Red Guards - the greatest disaster could come from the party losing control of these groups.
Basically. Similar ideological (as in anti-authoritarian turned authoritarian) background. I have a thesis musting somewhere in Cambridge MA about this parallel.
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That is what all religious texts and institutions effectively do. Take moral standards of centuries and millennium before and force it on today.
Sure. But only one of them seems to result in a massively disproportionate level of violence. And not just violence due to a difference of religion, but violence done in the very name of the religion
It may not seem like it today , Christianity is a bloody religion of conquest throughout most of its history, just the last 500 years had countless genocides conducted all over the world in its name. Gold , Glory and God was the theme of all colonization, before that period we had the another 500 years of religious wars like the crusades.
Islam is hardly the sole or even the largest abuser of faith. It is merely newest major one
A friend of mine who works in a startup in Bangladesh tells me that critical infrastructure is being set on fire indiscriminately. Buildings such as data centers. He shared videos of many such burning buildings. The country doesn’t yet have resilient infrastructure. For example, internet and telecommunication go through a single point of failure. Last year, that building was accidentally set on fire and it led to 2 w…
>A friend of mine who works in a startup in Bangladesh tells me that critical infrastructure is being set on fire indiscriminately. Buildings such as data centers. He shared videos of many such burning buildings. Targeting critical infrastructure doesn't sound like purely "anarchistic" rioting to me. It sounds like something a foreign hostile power would want to happen. It reminds me of what is happening in Ukraine a…
Its classic tactic employed by the government, many times over and over again. It's done by their student wing
And there are no opposition party left to do such attacks anymore, they've been systematically eradicated
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The protest WAS peaceful until one protester was killed by the Police for no reason. Not sure how you are blaming the massive countrywide internet outage on the protesters. It was literally announced by the government that they were shutting everything down to control the movement.
> The protest WAS peaceful until one protester was killed by the Police for no reason. I'm inclined to believe it, but let's be honest: protesters always say that. From their point of view that's how it always is and they are never in the wrong. Statistically it's very unlikely.
The students reacted when the pm threw a attacking comment toward them, and they were still peaceful in their reaction. Then then student wing of the party started attacking and things got violent
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It’s easy to encourage this when there’s nothing at stake. I personally have friends and family who are trapped and fear violent protestors as much as violent police. And when the protests die down in a few days or weeks, there will be even fewer jobs. And the attacks aren’t against the state but against the people as well.
Well obviously violence against random civilians is not justified, the target should be the state, especially leaders and security forces.
But we civilians are more afraid of violence from the ruling party's goon. These people are coming from some remotest parts of the country, have no good education, but empowered by the government to do anything deemed necessary to stop people's movement.
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Ideally protests should be peaceful. When there's no consequences for bad authoritarian behavior, you get more of it. Your plea for law and order is (probably inadvertently) a plea for the ongoing dominance of the established order. If it's peaceful only because everyone is afraid or unable to resist, then what you have is a police state. And in authoritarian societies like that, peaceful protest doesn't make any pos…
Both sides of the political spectrum are authoritarian. Each dominant party will do whatever in their power to hold onto it. That said, law and order is needed to sustain the population. The pop density of BD is incredible - imagine half the population of US crammed into the state of New York. Systems and processes were what BD out of being considered a “basket case “ as Henry Kissinger (?) once famously called it. A…
And people were never afraid of the students, nor the students were destroying infrastructure.
People were helping the students. [0]
Targeting unarmed people with shotguns, is in no way justifiable, no matter how you want to sugarcoat it. Simply put you can plate and serve shit in a very classy manner, but at the end it will still remain shit.
[0]. https://www.dhakatribune.com/bangladesh/dhaka/352655/when-ja...
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Well obviously violence against random civilians is not justified, the target should be the state, especially leaders and security forces.
In most of these movements that discipline isn’t maintained. What do you think happens when thousands of students, many of whom are discovering a city the first time in their lives, suddenly realize they can set grand things on fire? There’s certainly the core movement that is disciplined, but its very hard to control the beasts in the fringes.
The students are much more civilized than the goons and deployed police. The political wing of the party consists of uneducated street locals, or students who are not smart, and easy to manipulate, and looking for easy way to get to the top. I have worked with them, and I know their level.
And the students are the one who allows to go all the emergency vehicle peacefully. Never heard any students attacking an ambulance. Refer to safe roads movement by the students few years back.
Things go bad only when government goons gets involved. They are the beasts you are trying to make the students to be.
And link for you.
https://www.dhakatribune.com/bangladesh/dhaka/352655/when-ja...