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Pakistan cuts off phone and internet services on election day

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Re: Pakistan cuts off phone and internet services on election day

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> Pakistan has temporarily suspended mobile phone network And not the fixed one?

The intent isn't to block voice calls, but (probably) spreading of misinformation via social networks and group chat apps. Where the definition of "misinformation" is up to the government.

The idea is to stop people from encouraging others to vote. So they can keep the turnout as low as possible. Usually people who are politically motivated force their friends or relatives to cast vote.

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Everything is just paper or words. The constitution? Words. Only power is power. Only shackles constrain. Even computer code is just code. But in my experience, documents count for something because of the result of violating the documents. If your experience is that nothing you've said or written holds water, then so be it. We will see, in time, whose approach leads whom to a better life.

The constitution holds power because the judiciary is independent from the executive and congress. This friendly adversarial tension creates belief in the constitution (similar to social belief in currency) which makes it harder to dislodge. That goes out the window in a dictatorship. It becomes more about the self interest of one person, and if the piece of paper is against that then they'll throw it out.

Not in Pakistan. Pakistan has had 40 years of direct marshal laws, 35 years of indirect marshal laws since 1947. Pakistan Army operate a state within the state. Where what constitution says matters less than what an army chief says. They control the judiciary by blackmailing them by their corruption charges or recording them necked, whom they can't control are forced to resign, who do not comply to pressure they storm the courts with the militant wings. They change sentiments and spread fear but using them for a suicide attack.

But this time, things changed. Public get to know what has been happening to their country since last 75 years.

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Russia has a lot of unacknowledged "lost" soviet-era nukes that are actually still in its control. I could see them detonating one in India/Pakistan as a false flag to try and kick off a broader exchange to distract the West from Ukraine.

What an insane conspiracy. They already invaded Ukraine what more distraction could they need.

You mean "conspiracy theory".

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The craziest thing is that Pakistan has nuclear weapons. And not only that, the weapons are at the disposal of the local (very high ranking) commanders. It also is a country where the military is really in charge, only occasionally giving back the control to a civilian government. Sometimes people think that Eastern Europe is the most likely place to get nuked, or perhaps some American carrier off the coast of China.…

This stuff is what keeps me awake at night. "No rational person would use nuclear weapons first" Well, who's to say that the people in charge of the nukes are rational? All it takes is one madman and we could have one of the biggest disasters in human history. We tend to underestimate the likelihood of such disasters and don't prepare for them (COVID is one example.) One day, someone will fire a nuclear weapon at civ…

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Re: Pakistan cuts off phone and internet services on election day

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The craziest thing is that Pakistan has nuclear weapons. And not only that, the weapons are at the disposal of the local (very high ranking) commanders. It also is a country where the military is really in charge, only occasionally giving back the control to a civilian government. Sometimes people think that Eastern Europe is the most likely place to get nuked, or perhaps some American carrier off the coast of China.…

This stuff is what keeps me awake at night. "No rational person would use nuclear weapons first" Well, who's to say that the people in charge of the nukes are rational? All it takes is one madman and we could have one of the biggest disasters in human history. We tend to underestimate the likelihood of such disasters and don't prepare for them (COVID is one example.) One day, someone will fire a nuclear weapon at civ…

> One day, someone will fire a nuclear weapon at civilians and we just have to hope it isn't in our lifetime.

Guessing you're not Japanese?

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Iron Curtain was a political, not cultural border. Western civilization usually includes all European catholic countries, i. e. also Poland. (Huntington is a notorious example)

Yeah of course it was a political border but it absolutely had cultural consequences. You can literally see the difference in Berlin on either side of the wall. The Eastern side is similar but still different to the Western, culturally. Even the architecture is still quite different between the two sides.

You can see stronger cultural differences within western Germany (or any country, really), e.g. between Bavaria and North Germany.

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Iron Curtain was a political, not cultural border. Western civilization usually includes all European catholic countries, i. e. also Poland. (Huntington is a notorious example)

One of the classic dividing lines between East and West, the Hajnal line, goes straight through modern Poland. It’s closer to the historic border between Poland and Germany though.

> One of the classic dividing lines between East and West, the Hajnal line

Hajnal line is pretty controversial / outright rejected by many academics.

Irrespective of whether it is true or not, the idea that this should be somehow defining the border of (Aryan) West and (Slavic/Untermensch) East was pushed by Nazis. Otherwise it's just one line out of thousands without special merit.

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How do you study then?

You're not serious, are you? Books? Notebooks? Even downloading to your reading device? Screenshots if everything else fails?

You forgot that papers and pens ceased to work the second laptops showed up because that's how technology works.

Some people on this site are just idiots and need note-taking apps for a "productivity boost", whereas I can go to the store with a written list of everything I need. They think everyone should be hamstrung the same way they are.

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One of the classic dividing lines between East and West, the Hajnal line, goes straight through modern Poland. It’s closer to the historic border between Poland and Germany though.

> One of the classic dividing lines between East and West, the Hajnal line Hajnal line is pretty controversial / outright rejected by many academics. Irrespective of whether it is true or not, the idea that this should be somehow defining the border of (Aryan) West and (Slavic/Untermensch) East was pushed by Nazis. Otherwise it's just one line out of thousands without special merit.

Hajnal himself was a refugee from Nazi Germany of Hungarian Jewish descent; it’s offensive and glib of you to dismiss him, of all people, as a Nazi.

Re: Pakistan cuts off phone and internet services on election day

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Russia has a lot of unacknowledged "lost" soviet-era nukes that are actually still in its control. I could see them detonating one in India/Pakistan as a false flag to try and kick off a broader exchange to distract the West from Ukraine.

What an insane conspiracy. They already invaded Ukraine what more distraction could they need.

>What an insane conspiracy

Is english your second language? Conspiracy is not an accurate term for that, we are discussing hypothetical geopolitical strategy not something that might have happened.

>They already invaded Ukraine what more distraction could they need.

Please re-read my comment again, the context is obviously completely lost on you. The ukraine debacle is precisely what russia wants to distract _from_. Kicking off another major geopolitical crisis (tiawan invasion, india/pakistan exchange, war in gaza) are all things that would/are benefiting russia as it splits western focus.

And since you're so keyed in on the "conspiracy" word, I think it might surprise you to learn the the russian government/FSB is actively _conspiring_ to win their war in ukraine, just as ukraine is conspiring to not lose.

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