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Re: Indian government empowers itself to “fact check,” delete social media posts

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Post by dang » Sat, Apr 22, 2023, 6:11 PM UTC

AverageDude wrote: post #194

random314 wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you even read what I said? EVMs are not being tampered. But they make per polling booth data available to candidates. The BJP candidates use that summary data to withhold municipal services from constituents who didn't vote for them. They are able to make this threat because of summary data made available by EVMs https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/maneka-gandhi-s-vo...

He doesn’t want to read. It’s always hit and run with the fanboys of these authoritarian regimes.

You also posted several flamewar comments to this thread. This is not ok and we ban accounts that do it.

If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it.

Re: Indian government empowers itself to “fact check,” delete social media posts

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Post by wolverine876 » Sun, Apr 23, 2023, 8:30 PM UTC

indy wrote: post #147

rektide wrote: post #142

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In this modern case though we have another rightward illiberal authoritarian lurch. In modern times these seem to have high correspondences.

The correspondence is with power. Opposition parties are often anti-censorship, pro free speech etc. Once they come into power this all changes and they drift towards authoritarianism. Western, left-leaning governments have invented the term "hate speech" to justify this behaviour, right-leaning governments would often use "family values".

Not every restriction on speech is the same.

Restricting hate speech protects the politically vulnerable, the minority, the oppressed. It's not a restriction on hate speech toward the government.

Restricting 'anti-family' speech protects the status quo, those in power, the political majority and oppresses the vulnerable minority. For example, look at the discrimination against LGTBQ people now.

Re: Indian government empowers itself to “fact check,” delete social media posts

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Post by SomeCallMeTim » Thu, May 04, 2023, 9:46 PM UTC

citizen_friend wrote: post #210

SomeCallMeTim wrote: post #205

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> I think we should be extremely cautious about views that suggest cross sections of the population are not capable agents. I'm calling it as I see it. "Being cautious" and trying to be "fair" to the other side has been increasingly destroying the country. 47% of the voters in last election, which is just under 25% of the US population, were in fact manipulated, and are really, in this respect, not capable agents as…

I can confirm, you cannot articulate what rural voters are concerned about. > voter suppression It sounds like your motivation for democracy is that you "owe people" a vote, not that it's actually better to give them it. If education is the factor, what if we gate it by high school, land ownership, or college graduation? I guess to get back to my original point. You suggested that free information (and misinformation…

> I can confirm, you cannot articulate what rural voters are concerned about.

I never claimed that I was giving the entire picture.

Given that there is ZERO positive that Trump accomplished for rural voters aside from "owning the libs," and many things that were actively negative like starting a trade war that may see rural soy farms permanently out of business, no, I don't think that rural voters are motivated by anything aside from "voting their team" and "trolling the libs."

> I see little indication you believe democracy is important

...trouble with reading comprehension there? I'll simply repeat:

> It's the worst form of government around...aside from all the others that have been tried. (paraphrased Churchill).

> I don't know of another form of government that has better results. Neither did Churchill. If we could enforce better national education standards, we'd end up with a better result. But in short term I don't know how to fix the problem other than taking the worst liars off the air.

But you don't actually care what I'm saying if you follow up with:

> It's hard to see calls like this as anything other than being upset that the majority is not voting the way you want, and wanting to reign them in.

Umm... It wasn't a majority. It was barely 25% of the country. The majority of active voters did in fact vote for Biden.

But enough. You're just trolling at this point.