About the corners, It's not just about comfort. When CNC machines cut surfaces, the corners are naturally rounded, that's the main reason tablets, smartphones and pretty much everything coming out of a factory has rounded edges.
Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it
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#213Earlier quoted context omitted.
http://1.androidauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/sam... Here this is a nice photo frame samsung made in 2006, interestingly no one sued anyone for it. Apple is just full of bullshit and does everything to halt sales of their competitor.
Why would somebody sue Samsung or Samsung sue somebody by a digital photo frame. It's a photo frame!! Or you are saying that the Ipad copied the samsung photo frame design, and samsung should sue apple for it?
It's a photo frame, and their tablet resembles that photo frame (a legacy Samsung product that predates the iPad) at least as much as it resembles the iPad. The claim is that Apple's suit is spurious.
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#214The logic of this article is flawed and deliberately trying to deceive.
This is an article which assumes that the designer will value identical design problems as Apple. Hence they incorrectly argue that since Apple's design is simple, it's automatic to come to a similar design. It's trivial to argue that it's not only possible to solve the problems differently, but that other designers (e.g. HTC) have valued different design problems which result in a different looking tablet, that while similar(mostly for technical reasons), is different enough to escape scrutiny.
Not unlike the joke of the expert who knows where the place the chalk 'x' on the broken machine.(http://www.snopes.com/business/genius/where.asp) Apple's choice of favouring certain design problems over others is the result of their own research and how they want their users to experience their device. Valuing different problems produces different results, e.g. if Apple were adamant that the device should be held with one hand the design might approximate an artists palette or have a dedicated strap.
It's up to the lawyers from here, however Apple has been having success in demonstrating that the few differences between the devices are confusingly similar. Samsung's case is weakened by copying, not only the look and feel of the applications, but also the packaging, and even the 30 pin connector which rather than being an elegant solution it's a compatibility choice inherited from other iDevices.
To me, as a consumer, while my opinion is worthless in the matter: I feel it's a high profile knock off and something I'd expect to find in the chinese markets. Also it's association with Android damages the Android brand, allowing people to assume that Android is a rough counterfeit.
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#215Apple didn't give design advice to Samsung because they're arrogant. It's because for them to argue that their patents are being infringed, they have to point out alternative designs that could have achieved the same effect. IP laws are screwed up, but a lot of people are jumping on this bandwagon out of ignorance. It's like people who get mad because a brand comes down hard on folks using their trademark. It's a leg…
>they have to point out alternative designs that could have achieved the same effect. And this post proves that those alternative designs would make for a decidedly unappealing tablet experience. If Apple designs their products to be the bare minimum that looks good, they don't have the right to be surprised when other companies come to the same conclusion.
I don't think the onus is on Apple to suggest how Samsung could design a good alternative tablet.
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#216See, to me, Samsung does have an issue here, but it's not about the "rounded rectangle" shape or the "reasonably thick black bezel": it's the fact they have both of those, like the iPad, but then also surround them with a marginal silver border. I own both the Galaxy Tab 10.1" and an iPad 2, and I actually do get confused between the two all the time, when looking at them from above. They're about the same thickness…
Here's a nice google search you can do: http://www.google.com.au/search?q=samsung+laptop&tbm=isc... Notice the color, shape and style of the laptops you see, especially their displays. They nearly all have black bezel, are rectangular with rounded corners. It basically has all the features you mention. Samsung's Galaxy Tab looks as much like they ripped a display off one of their laptops as it does like an iPad. It i…
"Notice the color, shape and style of the laptops you see, especially their displays. They nearly all have black bezel, are rectangular with rounded corners."
Where do you think Samsung got their inspiration for those designs? What did Samsung's notebooks look like before Apple's MacBook Pro was around?
Example: http://bit.ly/ufAt6y
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#217I want these people who are running around saying there's no other way to design Samsung's stuff to explain to me one thing. Why, of all the devices on earth, does Samsung's tablet exactly mimic Apple's USB connector? I've got a Galaxy Tab sitting right next to me, here. The design isn't just similar, the dimensions are nearly identical. Explain it to me. Please. If you can offer a compelling case for why Samsung isn…
http://1.androidauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/sam... Here this is a nice photo frame samsung made in 2006, interestingly no one sued anyone for it. Apple is just full of bullshit and does everything to halt sales of their competitor.
Apple didn't build a freaking photo-frame..they built a tablet computer...
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#218Oh for frak's sake, Apple. This design came out before the iPad and looks identical to it. HN readers, you especially should know about this since it was all over the front page forever: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JooJoo Here's an article from June 2009 that you could almost literally just swap the word Apple and iPad into. http://techcrunch.com/2009/06/03/crunchpad-the-launch-protot...
Newsflash: Apple's design patents were filed before the iPad shipped, some as early as 2004.
on the other hand, like it is suggested to developers to not look at existing Patents, the same logic would be applied to design patents as well. If this is followed, any design can be reinvented - the more minimalistic the design is, higher would be the chances for its reinvention; this was also the central idea behind the article.
Although I am not sure about it but it appears like there have been prior art for most of the individual design concepts being pointed out here. Samsung photoframes, tablets from other parties and similar elements being icons having being used from ages before. It's the compilation of same design concepts together in Samsung Tabs as well as iPad that is creating the stir. As pointed out above, the similarity between the two appears to be more of an trademark issue than patent - if exactly and just these points are used.
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#219Earlier quoted context omitted.
http://1.androidauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/sam... Here this is a nice photo frame samsung made in 2006, interestingly no one sued anyone for it. Apple is just full of bullshit and does everything to halt sales of their competitor.
Apple didn't build a freaking photo-frame..they built a tablet computer...
The functionality is not at question here, the look and feel of the item is. This, hence, is a perfectly valid claim.
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#220Earlier quoted context omitted.
Here's a nice google search you can do: http://www.google.com.au/search?q=samsung+laptop&tbm=isc... Notice the color, shape and style of the laptops you see, especially their displays. They nearly all have black bezel, are rectangular with rounded corners. It basically has all the features you mention. Samsung's Galaxy Tab looks as much like they ripped a display off one of their laptops as it does like an iPad. It i…
"Notice the color, shape and style of the laptops you see, especially their displays. They nearly all have black bezel, are rectangular with rounded corners." Where do you think Samsung got their inspiration for those designs? What did Samsung's notebooks look like before Apple's MacBook Pro was around? Example: http://bit.ly/ufAt6y
I'm not quite sure what your point is - certainly Samsung was making laptops with the same black design theme prior to the iPad's release. I very much doubt they changed their whole line of laptops to look like the iPad.