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Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it

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Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it

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Post by Tichy »

danilocampos wrote: post #133
Tichy wrote: post #128

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I know at least one Android tablet that has an extra power connector because apparently it's USB micro connector can not provide sufficient power. Maybe the Apple USB connector is not even protected design and Samsung was allowed to use it? Is it actually compatible to the Apple connector. Once you go for a wider connector, perhaps again there are not that many options if you want to be thin. It has to be some kind o…

> Anyway, do you feel offended by a slot in a tablet? Does it really matter that much? I'm offended that anyone can look at the situation and argue that Samsung arrived at their designs independently.

Would it feel better for you if the slot was only 19mm wide instead of 21?

Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it

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Post by freehunter »

sbuk wrote: post #200
freehunter wrote: post #177

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No, just that only non-obvious design should be entitled to protection. A thumb-width, neutrally colored bezel, a rectangle screen, and non-lethal corners are obvious. Apple's suggestions are to specifically engineer a device that looks unlike an Apple product, rather than designing a device in the obvious way. Apple wants to corner the market on simple design. Imagine if your coffee cup couldn't be designed to be ro…

>>Apple wants to corner the market on simple design. Imagine if your coffee cup couldn't be designed to be round, have a handle that goes from the top to the bottom, or have an opening on the top to drink from. I don't understand this point of view at all. It's seems loaded and emotive. I'll ask you this; why can other hardware manufacturers make tablet devices that are aesthetically appealing to consumers that aren'…

Can you link me to one? I'm having a hard time finding a tablet that does not look like an iPad. The HP Touchpad, the Playbook, Motorola Xoom, even the Kindle Fire looks like a 7" iPad. The Nook Tablet is about the only one, and it's just a silver iPad with a notch cut out of the corner for some reason. Eee Transformer? iPad with an optional keyboard.

The Acer Iconia has a silver lining around the bezel. That and the Nook are about as "different" as I'm seeing. They're all 7" or 10" TV screens. No one is screaming that their TVs or monitors all look the same, but they're all black boxes with a screen.

Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it

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Post by bane »

danilocampos wrote: post #133
Tichy wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know at least one Android tablet that has an extra power connector because apparently it's USB micro connector can not provide sufficient power. Maybe the Apple USB connector is not even protected design and Samsung was allowed to use it? Is it actually compatible to the Apple connector. Once you go for a wider connector, perhaps again there are not that many options if you want to be thin. It has to be some kind o…

> Anyway, do you feel offended by a slot in a tablet? Does it really matter that much? I'm offended that anyone can look at the situation and argue that Samsung arrived at their designs independently.

I'm offended that anybody can look at the situation and argue Apple designed the iPad independently.

Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it

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Post by [deleted] »

danilocampos wrote: post #102

I want these people who are running around saying there's no other way to design Samsung's stuff to explain to me one thing. Why, of all the devices on earth, does Samsung's tablet exactly mimic Apple's USB connector? I've got a Galaxy Tab sitting right next to me, here. The design isn't just similar, the dimensions are nearly identical. Explain it to me. Please. If you can offer a compelling case for why Samsung isn…

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Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it

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Post by dudurocha »

ergo14 wrote: post #196
danilocampos wrote: post #102

I want these people who are running around saying there's no other way to design Samsung's stuff to explain to me one thing. Why, of all the devices on earth, does Samsung's tablet exactly mimic Apple's USB connector? I've got a Galaxy Tab sitting right next to me, here. The design isn't just similar, the dimensions are nearly identical. Explain it to me. Please. If you can offer a compelling case for why Samsung isn…

http://1.androidauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/sam... Here this is a nice photo frame samsung made in 2006, interestingly no one sued anyone for it. Apple is just full of bullshit and does everything to halt sales of their competitor.

Why would somebody sue Samsung or Samsung sue somebody by a digital photo frame. It's a photo frame!!

Or you are saying that the Ipad copied the samsung photo frame design, and samsung should sue apple for it?

Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it

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Post by danilocampos »

ergo14 wrote: post #196
danilocampos wrote: post #102

I want these people who are running around saying there's no other way to design Samsung's stuff to explain to me one thing. Why, of all the devices on earth, does Samsung's tablet exactly mimic Apple's USB connector? I've got a Galaxy Tab sitting right next to me, here. The design isn't just similar, the dimensions are nearly identical. Explain it to me. Please. If you can offer a compelling case for why Samsung isn…

http://1.androidauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/sam... Here this is a nice photo frame samsung made in 2006, interestingly no one sued anyone for it. Apple is just full of bullshit and does everything to halt sales of their competitor.

> Apple is just full of bullshit

What a compelling argument!

Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it

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Post by bane »

In my opinion, the real problem is not who copied who. Reading through these comments it's clear both companies are standing on the shoulders of giants (and in some cases of each other).

The real problem I'm seeing in most of these comments is that there's a stark denial that somebody, anybody, could possibly design and build a tablet that's as good (or better) than Apple's flagship product because after all, isn't Apple's design by definition the best?

Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it

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Post by samstave »

wtvanhest wrote: post #198
samstave wrote: post #188

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How about the MILLIONS of apple USB cables out there by iphone and ipad and ipod users where these same users may buy a samsung device and still be able to use their cables. I have ~10 apple USB cables. I keep 1 in my backpack, 1 in the car, 1 in the bedroom, I have a 6' long one I bought from deal extreme and several others in various places. I have an iPad - but I'm open to other devices and I hate it when I cant u…

If you stop buying Apple products all your USB cables will look the same for all devices.

Honestly, I have never bought an apple product.

I am very good about my employers buying me requisite devices for work. I have had the iphone since launch and have gone through 12 of them (in all the various models) as I tend to drop them a lot.

The iPad was a gift.

I have not bought a phone or computer for myself in ~10 years.

Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it

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Post by danilocampos »

peterknego wrote: post #154
danilocampos wrote: post #142

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The point is that if they rip off the cable and port , which is easy to detect, it's hard to believe that they stopped there when taking inspiration from the most successful product in the space.

USB and PDMI are standard connectors. What part don't you understand? And, btw, how do you rip off the cable?

As cube13 mentioned, eh, not so much, there:

http://android.modaco.com/topic/324387-docking-port-is-it-pd...

Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it

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Post by secoif »

danilocampos wrote: post #102

I want these people who are running around saying there's no other way to design Samsung's stuff to explain to me one thing. Why, of all the devices on earth, does Samsung's tablet exactly mimic Apple's USB connector? I've got a Galaxy Tab sitting right next to me, here. The design isn't just similar, the dimensions are nearly identical. Explain it to me. Please. If you can offer a compelling case for why Samsung isn…

This is akin to that "everything that can be invented, has been invented" quote, and equally lacking in foresight.

The reason many competitor products look similar or worse than apple products, is because we have unimaginative industrial designers that think like this blogger.

The next generation of apple tablets will find a way to distinguish themselves from their competitors, despite having already created 'the perfect design'.

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