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Post by t0bia_s »

watwut wrote: post #207
t0bia_s wrote: post #190

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"Practically, it is not experiment." It is. Vaccine trials cannot be speed up. Human biology is not changeable as some sources trying to tell you. You need time to observe for example changes in fertility. walterbell gave you links for more info. "Literally for no reason other then "I want it to and it would confirm my priors"." Sorry, but that is your biased deduction.

Kim Jung Gi was not infertile. As much as he kept private life private, that much is known.

Well... That's not a point of previous post.

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Post by t0bia_s »

croes wrote: post #200
t0bia_s wrote: post #195

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How you know that? That is your biased opinion, probably shaped by emotional news.

Because they say that. Just look in certain telegram groups, right next to The Great Reset.

You probably shouldn't make conclusions on watching certain groups on telegram. World is more complex than that.

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Post by deepzn »

nottorp wrote: post #42
stoeckley wrote: post #23

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The drawings are amazing, but the reason he is so well-known is his process, which you can only see in the videos.

I like some. Not all. I'm afraid I fail to get enthusiastic about knowing how they were done, sorry.

He is a master, as he can produce realistic sketches/art, as well as comical adding his own unique flavors to it. He is really a swiss knife. You might not like a type of drawing but he definitely has it all. And his memory, and stream of consciousness sketching is what is superhuman, and they're super detailed massive sprawls of a sketch.

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Post by aceazzameen »

t0bia_s wrote: post #209
aceazzameen wrote: post #202

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Because you're not going to get any answers of substance in this topic. A person died of a possible heart related condition. Why are there so many people asking if he was vaccinated? What does that have to do here? How come no one is asking if he oversalted his food every day? Frankly, vaccination questions in this topic are off-topic.

Well maybe because more and more people have some bad experience with vaccines. Question, that are not comfortable to answer for you, are not necessarily off-topic.

It's not about my comfort, it's about you jumping to a conclusion without giving any other possibility equal weight.

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Post by deepzn »

Bloedcoin wrote: post #59
badpun wrote: post #39

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You can enjoy things that are bad for you... Polish film director Zanussi said that it was always his goal to have poor health in the old age, because, if he didn't, it'd meant he hadn't push himself hard enough in the pursuit of excellence in his art.

Just because some person said this doesn't make it here suddenly true. I personally find this anecdote really shitty to be honest. Only a balanced mind and body can sustaine quality over a long time. Also bad health in old age is super critical for living long and bad. Would never thrive for this like laying in bed having pain every day being dependent

Yeah watched Master Kim a lot. And he always has fun sketching and interacting with people as his job. This wasn't his job, just his passion. Definitely genetic factors, etc, can lead to cardiovascular disease...we don't know every thing to comment. He was getting tired, more from traveling around a lot, as I talked to some of his entourage a week before his passing, don't know how much that affected his heart health.

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Post by walterbell »

watwut wrote: post #206
walterbell wrote: post #186

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> Practically, it is not experiment. The U.S. NIH says otherwise, e.g. here is one of the ongoing clinical studies, which continues through March 2023, https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04848584 Study Type: Observational Official Title: Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 BNT162b2 Vaccine Effectiveness Study - Kaiser Permanente Southern California Actual Study Start Date: May 15, 2021 Estimated Primary Completion Date: Mar…

There being ongoing related studies does not mean the whole vaccination thing is experiment. The level of manipulativeness and appeals to emotions rather then logic are super high higher. Also there are way more then just 11 vaccines all in all.

> ongoing related studies does not mean the whole vaccination thing is experiment

It means that the outcome of vaccine studies which complete in 2023, e.g. medium-term adverse effects, identification of specific risk pools, mitigations for adverse effects, will primarily benefit those who receive treatment after the studies complete in 2023.

Any beneficial information from a study completing in 2023 would self-evidently not be available in 2021 and 2022, i.e. science would have yielded new scientific knowledge. Participating in an ongoing scientific procedure with partial data is a risk-benefit decision, but that does not make it any less of an experiment, when there is ongoing, parallel research, clinical trials and scientists working diligently to answer open questions.

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Post by t0bia_s »

aceazzameen wrote: post #214
t0bia_s wrote: post #209

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Well maybe because more and more people have some bad experience with vaccines. Question, that are not comfortable to answer for you, are not necessarily off-topic.

It's not about my comfort, it's about you jumping to a conclusion without giving any other possibility equal weight.

That is your conclusion. I just asked question. Which is, for you, automatically concluded. But you still gave me no answer for that question, which could be really considered as offtopic.

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Post by novok »

wahern wrote: post #176
novok wrote: post #170

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I don't have a history of heart attacks, and lot of doctors seem to discount this form of early checking. What do you do when your bloodwork is good?

> What do you do when your bloodwork is good? Yearly blood panels provide time series data against which it might be easier to spot changes even if all metrics are in the "healthy" zone. At Kaiser, which usually has its own lab in every facility, yearly blood panels are completely routine. As an HMO Kaiser has every incentive to minimize costs, and they don't make any such practices routine unless and until they've b…

Kaisers / HMOs are not that unique in having annual blood work of standard items. I think they have to do it by law at some level, with PPO insurance 'preventive' stuff like that is usually much cheaper or 'free'.

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Post by deepzn »

deepzn wrote: post #213
nottorp wrote: post #42

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I like some. Not all. I'm afraid I fail to get enthusiastic about knowing how they were done, sorry.

He is a master, as he can produce realistic sketches/art, as well as comical adding his own unique flavors to it. He is really a swiss knife. You might not like a type of drawing but he definitely has it all. And his memory, and stream of consciousness sketching is what is superhuman, and they're super detailed massive sprawls of a sketch.

For those that are just jumping in here-- Watch this spectacle (sped up) completely drawn from memory and technique. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg1j9xwcij8

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Post by aplummer »

briandon wrote: post #184
aplummer wrote: post #179

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Once you publish your peer reviewed paper I look forward to retracting my comment as you are globally lauded.

Will you accept peer-reviewed papers by other authors? There are multiple types of health risks associated with the experimental covid shots (billions of doses administered globally and often repeatedly to the same individuals before clinical trials have been completed doesn't make them less experimental, but it does raise the stakes of the experiment). Here, I will consider a single known and admitted adverse effect…

There are so many bizarre jumps in logic here it's actually impossible to address. All I can say is you need to speak to an actual (or better yet, several) epidemiologists about vaccine efficacy and the efficacy of the covid vaccines.

For anyone impressionable reading, I just want to point out:

> We're witnessing a large increase in non-covid excess deaths of young-to-middle-aged persons in countries with high covid shot uptake

This is false, the CDC is not lying, the vaccines are safe and effective. I recommend reading: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/sa... and the number of studies linked inside if you would like to read further.

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