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Post by afavour »

ghostcluster wrote: post #166

MIT Technology Review interviewed the new CEO recently: > Our role is not to be bound by the First Amendment , but our role is to serve a healthy public conversation and our moves are reflective of things that we believe lead to a healthier public conversation. The kinds of things that we do about this is, focus less on thinking about free speech, but thinking about how the times have changed . One of the changes tod…

I read it differently than "shaping public opinion". The reality is that social media (and Twitter especially) is toxic. That underlying toxicity comes from humans of course, but recommendation algorithms accelerate and highlight it because it leads to high "engagement", and thus more money. These sites already "guide" conversation, just using metrics that can end up being harmful.

A social media CEO that's interested in breaking the cycle there and trying to recommend content that's more constructive than inflammatory sounds like a great thing to me. Yes, there are a dozen pitfalls awaiting anyone that tries, but it's still worth attempting.

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Post by mardifoufs »

nafizh wrote: post #97

People love to bash Dorsey but he had more of a backbone than Zuckerberg in every possible way. And while the game is always about money, Dorsey did try to improve the eco-system in a principled way even if arguably he failed in many ways - this courage was probably there because he was a founder of the company. The new CEO will be more like Pichai at Google or Cook at Apple - only there to make money.

How did dorsey stand up to anything? They are trying to monetize twitter just as much, with extremely annoying dark patterns to boot. They just don't seem to succeed as well. The way they redesigned feeds, made linking to tweets a coin toss because of how often they just show "oops something went wrong" if you aren't logged in, or if you are lucky made it so Twitter threads just don't show anything but the single linked tweet. I'm not sure if trying and failing to grow and monetize like facebook counts

And it's not like he has shown some sort of political backbone either. Twitter is much much more of a political cesspool, and has an odd persuasive influence on real life politics that facebook posts just doesn't have. And that's with Twitter being pretty okay with handing out bans and protecting blue checkmarks (and it's obvious they have a very heavy biais when it comes to who they verify). I'm genuinely puzzled that you can see dorsey as having stood up for pretty much anything.

I know this is very unpopular but while Zuckerberg has obviously no problem with turning his platform into a creepy ad filled universe he controls, he's still infinitely more "backboned". 99% of the attention fb or Zuckerberg are getting is due to their (relatively) unwavering obsession with their vision of free speech and an open platform. Every single major media platform on pretty much both sides has been trashing him and facebook for the past 4 years. He could've gone the dorsey way of just yielding and taking the very easy path of doing whatever to make the controversy go away but he didn't. You can agree or disagree with his stance, but at least he has one (again, I'm not talking about the monetization or ad side). If he didnt, the past 4 years would've been a breeze for him and Meta. Remember, most of the mainstream controversy has been about allowing fake news, wrong think, how the platform is moderated, how meta is totally why the other side won... The privacy/tracking/advertising issues have been mostly ignored in comparison (they probably have been covered extensively on HN but that's an outlier) unless they overlapped with a political tribe issue.

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Post by [deleted] »

riffic wrote: post #151

Looks like activist investors are getting their Christmas wish this year. Twitter's not immune from ending up on this list (on a long enough timeline): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_defunct_social_network...

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Post by leodriesch »

ghostcluster wrote: post #166

MIT Technology Review interviewed the new CEO recently: > Our role is not to be bound by the First Amendment , but our role is to serve a healthy public conversation and our moves are reflective of things that we believe lead to a healthier public conversation. The kinds of things that we do about this is, focus less on thinking about free speech, but thinking about how the times have changed . One of the changes tod…

That’s unfortunate. This is exactly how I want Twitter not to be. I just want a feed filled with Tweets by the people I follow, ordered by the time posted.

But as seen on Instagram, YouTube and TikTok, this is not most effective way to make money.

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Post by smt88 »

sneak wrote: post #203

So did I, after a dozen years on the platform. I won't donate content or attention to a site that decides what I am allowed to read (they censor their search!).

Every website you've ever used decides what you're allowed to read on their site.

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Post by Kye »

afavour wrote: post #7

I have no particular beef with Dorsey but I think this would make sense. He's been CEO of both Square and Twitter for years now and no matter what time you wake up in the morning or however many specials diets you undertake you're not going to be able to give the focus a solo CEO is. I think the bigger issue is who gets to replace him: will it be someone with smart ideas or someone to serve as a puppet of activist in…

One of the only episodes of Joe Rogan I ever listened to (#1258) was the interview with Jack Dorsey and Vijaya Gadde. Vijaya Gadde would make a good CEO. She seems to have a clear, balanced, and well-informed perspective on both Twitter as a whole and the many micro-communities within.

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Post by frontman1988 »

antoniuschan99 wrote: post #178
echelon wrote: post #155

Any speculation as to the reason and timing for this? Twitter was Jack's baby, and he loved it so much that he gave 50% of his Square time to leading Twitter. Jack has so much more to gain from Square from both an equity and Bitcoin maximalist perspective, it's curious why Jack would try to lead two very demanding companies simultaneously. (Not that it can't be done. Elon, Jack, et al. have done it for years.) My tho…

From the tweet do you think Parag and/or Bret pushed him out?

Parag doesn't look like a guy who could push anyone out.

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Post by smt88 »

sol_invictus wrote: post #110

There are some fantastic fringe right-wing communities I’m going to miss tremendously after the new CEO inevitably starts purging the ”unconventional” content

You feel that Twitter is an irreplaceable source of fringe, right-wing community? Aren't there a ton of sites that serve that purpose?
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