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Terraria on Stadia cancelled after developer's Google account gets locked

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Re: Terraria on Stadia cancelled after developer's Google account gets locked

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If you get your own domain, get one on a well-known TLD (e.g. .com, .org or your own country code). If you get a gTLD that's not well-known, there are some endpoints that will block you because your email is "not valid".

Is .dev or .io considered a well-known gTLD by now? I’m in process of setting up email for my .dev domain.

.io isn't a gTLD at all, it's a ccTLD belonging to British Indian Ocean Territory (which I find to be bullshit, since those islands have no permanent inhabitants).

That said, there are ccTLDs which behave more like gTLDs (like .io, .me, .fm, .gg, .cd) and are treated as such across much of what you do online, but whether that'll impact your email delivery depends on who you communicate with and how they treat spam.

Re: Terraria on Stadia cancelled after developer's Google account gets locked

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This makes me anxious about my long time Gmail address. Back then I got it just because it and Google was cool, and their services had a good reputation. It was a different Google back then. If they had launched it this year I would never have got one because chances are it would have been cancelled by 2025. Gmail is really the only valuable thing that actually ties my life to Google. And it's not that hard to replac…

What's the best way to back up your data? Google Takeout? Is that easily ingestible into other email programs?

If you intend to keep using Google products, then more or less yeah, periodically. A better way is to start using Fastmail (for example) and have them import everything. Then stop using gmail.

Re: Terraria on Stadia cancelled after developer's Google account gets locked

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This makes me anxious about my long time Gmail address. Back then I got it just because it and Google was cool, and their services had a good reputation. It was a different Google back then. If they had launched it this year I would never have got one because chances are it would have been cancelled by 2025. Gmail is really the only valuable thing that actually ties my life to Google. And it's not that hard to replac…

Start the process of getting out right now. Get an email address that you own, on a domain you control. Switch to a provider that takes your money for whom you are the customer - not the product. I did this with Fastmail and Iki.fi, a Finnish non-profit[1], who have been selling people "permanent" email addresses since 1995. [1] http://www.iki.fi/

That fi TLD and "1995" jolted a name out of the old memory unit: anon @penet.fi.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penet_remailer

Re: Terraria on Stadia cancelled after developer's Google account gets locked

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As a small business we use Google Suite. We would need a single solution which provides all these: - Email (unlimited domains, unlimited addresses) - Drive (Docs, sheets, forms) - Photos (this is where we also store out private photos 2Tb+; also, auto-sync is a lifesaver) - Calendar

Any alternative which is as affordable as Google? How about Zoho?

Re: Terraria on Stadia cancelled after developer's Google account gets locked

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Start the process of getting out right now. Get an email address that you own, on a domain you control. Switch to a provider that takes your money for whom you are the customer - not the product. I did this with Fastmail and Iki.fi, a Finnish non-profit[1], who have been selling people "permanent" email addresses since 1995. [1] http://www.iki.fi/

If you get your own domain, get one on a well-known TLD (e.g. .com, .org or your own country code). If you get a gTLD that's not well-known, there are some endpoints that will block you because your email is "not valid".

Ironically enough, .email is considered a spammy TLD according to the Spamhaus TLD check.

Re: Terraria on Stadia cancelled after developer's Google account gets locked

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Abandoning Google services will not work because only a negligible number of people will actually do it. Here's what may actually work: - Make a website documenting cases like this and strongly encourage visitors to install an ad-blocker and tell friends and family and social media followers to do the same. - Whenever there's a high-profile case like this, ask people to install an ad-blocker and share a link to this…

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Re: Terraria on Stadia cancelled after developer's Google account gets locked

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This happens again and again. I have had that happen to my twitter account. I see this regulary on HN. My suspicion is that this is mostly happening because platforms that big like google or twitter rely very heavily on machine learning and other AI related technology to ban people. Because honestly, the amount of spam and abuse that are likely happening on these platforms has to be mind boggling high. So I get why t…

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Re: Terraria on Stadia cancelled after developer's Google account gets locked

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Man, some of those replies on Twitter are unreasonably harsh to this guy. Being a game developer seems like a really thankless task. Why are so many game players so entitled and unfriendly?

I was pretty taken aback by that, they go way further than disappointing about not having the game on their platform of choice, to just outright yelling at the developer for somehow this being their fault?

Re: Terraria on Stadia cancelled after developer's Google account gets locked

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Shows the bias in machine learning. One simple parameter isn't added and the whole model is bullshit. One parameter would be: Amount of money this customer has spend on our products. Another would be: Active time since signup. I'm pretty sure if "money spend > 0" is actually a legitimate threshold to remove a lot of spam, although not all. "money spend > 200" might to the trick though.

This can be gamed. There are so many stolen credit card numbers and/or payments using Apple/Google pre-paid cards out there, so it's not difficult to automatically build accounts with this kind of 'reputation'. Unfortunately the best way to do KYC is (still) human intervention (and use of data).

It is significantly harder to game though - companies succesfully offer behavioral monitoring for DLP products with far less data than the payment data Google has access to. Years of payments with a certain payment type? That's a pattern. Renting movies at certain time in the week? That's another... The truth of the matter is, somebody has to actually care to do this. From accounts of googlers I've read, that's not what the culture of Google is likely to result in though.

Re: Terraria on Stadia cancelled after developer's Google account gets locked

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post #55

This makes me anxious about my long time Gmail address. Back then I got it just because it and Google was cool, and their services had a good reputation. It was a different Google back then. If they had launched it this year I would never have got one because chances are it would have been cancelled by 2025. Gmail is really the only valuable thing that actually ties my life to Google. And it's not that hard to replac…

I've been considering getting a new email address on a personal domain so it can be more portable and I can change providers. Does anyone recommend any alternate providers with custom domains, or some OSS? Is it possible to host your own email server on a NAS or RPi something?

Hosting your own email is pretty easy to get started, but without continuous work you will have problems getting good deliverability, and balancing blocking almost all spam without filtering out wanted email is tricky too
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