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In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour (2019)

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Post by jeofken »

watwut wrote: post #208
jeofken wrote: post #195

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Are you sure? It could just as well be because of the internet catching our attention so boys and girls don’t spend it on each other like they used to. No evidence for either claim although both sound plausible

Teen pregnancy is heavily studied, it is big social issue. It has pretty large impact on mother, child, father and extended family. The articles I have seen strongly associated sexual education with both less sex and safer teenage sex. Basically, if you teach kids about sex and anticonception and condoms, they are less likely to do it and more likely to use this condoms and generally behave more safely. On the other…

That parenthood out of wedlock is a tragedy is true, but how can you or said articles authors be sure the link between teens today not having them being because of sex ed in school? I’m not saying it’s unlikely, but I’m wondering if there is any evidence showing the correlation, or if the effect is due to any other reason?

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Post by oblio »

morlockabove wrote: post #210
oblio wrote: post #206

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Being aware and rational?

I would say that 'aware' is rhetorically the same as 'terrified', and 'rational' just means 'act optimally', so it's implied.

I'm aware that at some point the Sun will expand and engulf Earth, but I'm not terrified of it.

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Post by maxlybbert »

dragonwriter wrote: post #198
maxlybbert wrote: post #164

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If cities have become more dangerous in recent years, people will notice and change their behavior. It doesn’t matter that today’s cities haven’t matched their historic peak, only that they’re worse than they were ten years ago.

> If cities have become more dangerous in recent years, people will notice and change their behavior. Dubious. Certainly, behavior is driven by perception of danger, but whether perception of danger generally tracks with actual danger or not is…less certain. I know for child abduction and child assaults by those outside of the family that has historically not been the case; and perceived danger has increased as media…

I stated that if cities become more dangerous, people will change their behavior. A case of people changing their behavior even though cities aren’t more dangerous isn’t really a counterexample. A valid counterexample would be a case of cities becoming more dangerous and people not changing their behavior.

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Post by dionidium »

oblio wrote: post #209
dionidium wrote: post #189

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Please don’t ask people if they’ve read the article. It’s obnoxious. And, no, it isn’t just 2020. The homicide rate in St. Louis bottomed out in 2003 at a rate of 21.8 per 100k. By 2014 it had more than doubled to 49.9. By 2015 it had nearly tripled to 59.3 per 100k. And it’s even higher now. It’ll end this year in the 70s per 100k, eclipsing the 1993 high. It’s been a steady march up from the bottom. And the trend i…

You kept spamming the same comment. Regarding crime, there is one obvious answer. Inequality. The US Gini coefficient has been going up for 3 decades, I think. The reduction effect from getting rid of leaded gasoline could only outweigh this for so long... Poor people commit more crimes and you're starting to have more and more poor people.

“It’s uniquely lead.”

Maybe, but rates are back up decades after we banned lead.

“Ok, well it’s uniquely the St. Louis police.”

Nope, sorry. Rates are up everywhere.

“Well then it’s just 2020! What a weird year!”

Nope. Rates have been rising for years.

“Ah, well then it’s obviously inequality.”

Why do people think not only that there has to be an immediate and obvious explanation for this trend, but also that they know exactly what it is?

For that matter, why are people so anxious to explain this away? It’s very confusing.

The fact is we don’t know why it’s happening. It’s complicated. It’s definitely happening. And we don’t know why. It’s ok to say, “I don’t know.”

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Post by megameter »

Melting_Harps wrote: post #54
cleansingfire wrote: post #40

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When I lived in East Palo Alto, it was the murder capital of the US. With a carjacking attempt 75' from my front door (foiled by returning with a pistol before they could restart my car) I miss that time not at all.

> When I lived in East Palo Alto, it was the murder capital of the US. With a carjacking attempt 75' from my front door (foiled by returning with a pistol before they could restart my car) I miss that time not at all. Yeah, I remember the Valley in the 90s... a lof of it looked a lot like downtown LA which I'm was never exactly a fan of. But being in San Jose back then in the 90s looked and smelled like Chinatown whe…

I think the thing about the Valley is that it was forged in a context where it was the rational mode of development for a high tech urban center: car-centric office parks and factories, big-box stores and malls, vast housing subdivisions with some toxic waste buried here and there. Although the players in SV were all building "next big things", everything still ultimately ran on physical presence - real venues that you could go to and make connections in, and the landscape was eminently suited to that between ~1970-2000.

It was with the opening of the commercial Internet in the 90's that it all started changing. The new companies weren't in boxed products destined for retail: they started replacing retail. You didn't go to a users' group to learn, you subscribed to Usenet or email. And so on. So even by the early 2000's, things started to feel hollowed out in SV.

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Post by BlackFingolfin »

boomboomsubban wrote: post #192
BlackFingolfin wrote: post #147

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Moreover, the worst year was 1992, which isn't in the 80ies last I checked...

The 80's still could have averaged one an hour even if the worst year was 92.

Except it didn't even average one an hour in the worst year

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Post by boomboomsubban »

BlackFingolfin wrote: post #217
boomboomsubban wrote: post #192

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The 80's still could have averaged one an hour even if the worst year was 92.

Except it didn't even average one an hour in the worst year

*hour the bank was open. Thought my first post made that clear.

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Post by yocheckitdawg »

oblio wrote: post #205
Scheherazade wrote: post #194

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“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”- G. Michael Hopf

Any proof for that platitude?

Yea tbh that quote never made much sense to me. Wouldn't the Congo or Somalia be a paradise if that were true?

The whole thing hinges on the definition of Strong/Hard/Weak/Good and how you define them.

For example who is stronger, a turn the other cheek reverend or an eye for an eye preacher?

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