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In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour (2019)

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Re: In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour (2019)

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Post by reshie »

conception wrote: post #13
Melting_Harps wrote: post #6

Yeah, many of us that grew up in SoCal recall the heist that led to the so called 'assault weapon' ban, it was completely legal to have a long barrel rifle with 30 round magazines in CA prior to that--they could be open-carried if not loaded back then if I recall correctly, too. This was around the time of the LA riots in the 90s, too... which in my mind all happened at the same time as I recall being a kid sat in fr…

Just a point of clarification for those not familiar with the heist, the weapons used were -not- legal in CA or the US. It was also during the time of the Federal Assault Weapons ban. They were not owned nor able to be owned legally during that time. It was also the inspiration for Heat’s shootout!

thats right. what it did was giving the police more militarization and most police now carry an ar in their cruisers(used to be shotgun at best) and also lot more military surplus like nraps.

Re: In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour (2019)

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Post by DanBC »

freeflight wrote: post #122
jedberg wrote: post #75

> 1992, the worst year of all, there was an almost unimaginable 2,641 heists, one every 45 minutes of each banking day. Point Break came out in 1991. I wonder if that inspired some people. For those that don't know, the plot is that a bunch of LA surfers knock off banks so they can spend the rest of their time surfing, and get away with it for a long time.

It's interesting how the Werther-effect has been a topic for speculation, and even governmental action, for literally centuries, yet we don't seem to be any closer to acknowledging it, if it's actually a thing, or coming to any solid conclusions as what to do about if it actually is a thing. It's also kind of weird how in the English-language sphere it's apparently only known/relevant for "copycat suicide" [0], when…

You could look to the UK for examples of action being taken specifically around suicide. Broadcasters have self-imposed guidelines that they follow. The regulators are aware of these guidelines and the need for them.

Journalist unions have created a set of guidelines that attempt to balance freedom to report with the need to protect the public. (For something more specific: when you report someone has died in a public place do not give detail information about where they died. If they jumped off a particular bridge do not name the bridge. (We have a little bit of research from survivors about how they pick locations and some of them say they're influenced by news reporting)).

On your wider point, all our broadcasters are aware of "imitative acts" and so they're very careful when showing children doing violent or dangerous things. Our advertising regulator will also ban some ads that show these things. There was an example from some time ago of a soft drink called "Tango". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_Man_(advertisement)

> Nonetheless, Orange Man soon sparked large controversy in the media and in public after it was discovered children had copied the events of the advertisement in playgrounds and injured themselves; Rupert Howell, a Tango advertisement executive, stated in 2000 that Orange Man "sparked a playground craze" where "people used to go round sort of slapping each other and saying 'You've Been Tango'd', and it was all very entertaining and great fun. There were no problems until we got a phone call once from a surgeon who said 'look, I'm not the complaining type but I thought you'd like to know that I did an operation on a child this morning with a damaged ear drum, and I was wheeling him in to the operating table, and said to him 'what happened to you then?' and replied 'I got Tango'd.'"[6] As a result, Howell pulled the advertisement from television that afternoon,[6] although other reports erroneously state that the advertisement was banned

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhOeG-uTJxw

Re: In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour (2019)

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Post by africanboy »

dragonwriter wrote: post #136
africanboy wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AFAIK Spanish arrived in California around 16th Century, Cortés, Ulloa and Cabrillo led expeditions and created small settlements between 1530 and 1550. Sir Francis Drake declared English sovereignty over the area of SF bay in 1579 and named it New Albion (New Britain, from Albion, the old Greek name for Britain).

> AFAIK Spanish arrived in California around 16th Century, Arrived in? Sure, mostly sailing around the coast and transitory land expeditions. So did the British in North America, on both coasts. But as for establishing any kind of durable colonies (e.g., “California” as more than a name on a map), that came later, and well after British colonies like Virginia were established, especially in the case of Alta Californi…

California was officially established in 1850 though

the original post said

> pre-dates the existence of the US and British colonialism

Which is honestly not false, settlements in California formed about one century before the US independence.

Anyway, there were people living in what we call California today long before the Spanish arrived there...

Re: In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour (2019)

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Post by redis_mlc »

varjag wrote: post #138
pault wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also interesting that as a kid born in 1980 at the start of the drug violence epidemic, we were allowed to roam as we pleased as long as we were home for dinner. Contrast that to today's vastly safer world, and kids are not allowed to walk the neighborhood unsupervised.

Is there a chance for causal relationship?

No. The leash put on US children was because of the 1981 Adam Walsh kidnapping/murder, and his dad (a cop) inadvertently instilling morbid fear in the American public by being on TV daily about it for over a decade.

Hard to believe, but one TV reality celebrity infantilized all later generations of US children over one kid. This has delayed childhood maturity by about 5 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Adam_Walsh

A similar example is Dr. Fauci, who has admitted that the only thing he cares about is corona stats, and doesn't look at related lockdown considerations like DV, delayed surgeries, school closures, etc.

Basically two thoughtless simps have used the power of mass media to nearly destroy American civilization.

I haven't read this book yet, but it discusses similar issues that are (gravely) endangering Western society:

https://www.amazon.com/Parasitic-Mind-Infectious-Killing-Com...

Re: In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour (2019)

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Post by nvarsj »

adwww wrote: post #137
Melting_Harps wrote: post #6

Yeah, many of us that grew up in SoCal recall the heist that led to the so called 'assault weapon' ban, it was completely legal to have a long barrel rifle with 30 round magazines in CA prior to that--they could be open-carried if not loaded back then if I recall correctly, too. This was around the time of the LA riots in the 90s, too... which in my mind all happened at the same time as I recall being a kid sat in fr…

I grew up in a leafy village in rural UK. But at one point in the early 90s my dad got an offer to move to SoCal and we went out, I remember visiting schools and stuff, but we never actually went ahead with the move. Apparently while we were there my dad witnessed the car in front of him being robbed at gunpoint, but decided perhaps that was a one off, don't tell the family, perhaps it's fine... then the exact same t…

It's sort of funny how you get used to things and normalize them, especially the violence that occurs in the US. I lived in Chicago for nearly a decade, much of it on the near west side, and it was normal to hear gunshots a few blocks away. Violent crime was normal - a pub restaurant I used to take my kids to along with other families, had a brutal murder where someone got their throat slit. And I wasn't living in a "bad" area either, it was filled with affluent middle class families. This was also with two coal fired power plants puffing away right in the middle of the city (this was in the 2000s even, what a joke!). Everyone just accepted these things as normal for living in Chicago. The US can be weirdly dissonant place at times.

Re: In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour (2019)

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Post by daniellarusso »

ramchip wrote: post #110
ajmurmann wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I keep hearing that crime in rural areas has been going up and that now even cake wrangling is a problem liked in old wild west movies. Your general point that on a lawyer scale we are safer than ever stands Best source short googling could find: https://www.wsj.com/articles/nothing-but-you-and-the-cows-an...

What's cake wrangling?

A rural pastry heist?

Re: In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour (2019)

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Post by BlackFingolfin »

boomboomsubban wrote: post #46

Not that it drastically improves the statement, but the tagline for the article > a bank was robbed every hour of every day. But the article itself clarifies they mean "each banking day" and the worst year had about seven robberies a day. Still a shocking amount, but not the 24 a day implied.

Moreover, the worst year was 1992, which isn't in the 80ies last I checked...

Re: In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour (2019)

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Post by nemo44x »

lumost wrote: post #79
post_break wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you can still own both. The bazooka will need a tax stamp for each round if I’m not mistaken. I believe there are still transferable m79 grenade launchers and there are definitely M16 under barrel attachments you can buy.

From a legal standpoint, has any limit been placed on the second ammendment? could someone/has someone sued on the claim they should have access to WMDs?

There is a distinction between a “device” and an “arm”. This is why there is no constitutional right to own a WMD like a nuclear bomb or chemical bomb. Rocket launchers are considered “destructive devices” and you can buy those as well as the munition for it. Good luck getting one though.

However, if you go through proper channels it’s amazing what you’re allowed to own. In some states you can not only own a tank (that’s the easy part - you can even import one if the guns are disabled) but could also have it stay equipped with its standard issue .50cal gun! You won’t be allowed to drive it on public roads though. They are also cost prohibitive.

Hell, you can buy fighter jet if you’d like. But it has to be demilitarized which although still fun to fly would sort of limit your ability to maintain air superiority against a properly provisioned force.

Re: In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour (2019)

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Post by Moru »

nvarsj wrote: post #145
adwww wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I grew up in a leafy village in rural UK. But at one point in the early 90s my dad got an offer to move to SoCal and we went out, I remember visiting schools and stuff, but we never actually went ahead with the move. Apparently while we were there my dad witnessed the car in front of him being robbed at gunpoint, but decided perhaps that was a one off, don't tell the family, perhaps it's fine... then the exact same t…

It's sort of funny how you get used to things and normalize them, especially the violence that occurs in the US. I lived in Chicago for nearly a decade, much of it on the near west side, and it was normal to hear gunshots a few blocks away. Violent crime was normal - a pub restaurant I used to take my kids to along with other families, had a brutal murder where someone got their throat slit. And I wasn't living in a…

So what you are telling me, all those movies, it's not just Hollywood magic, it's reality? Ugh.

Re: In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour (2019)

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Post by gfxgirl »

asveikau wrote: post #63
Melting_Harps wrote: post #6

Yeah, many of us that grew up in SoCal recall the heist that led to the so called 'assault weapon' ban, it was completely legal to have a long barrel rifle with 30 round magazines in CA prior to that--they could be open-carried if not loaded back then if I recall correctly, too. This was around the time of the LA riots in the 90s, too... which in my mind all happened at the same time as I recall being a kid sat in fr…

> Yeah, many of us that grew up in SoCal recall the heist that led to the so called 'assault weapon' ban I always heard it was events in California (and Diane Feinstein being a key player) that created the ban, but I never heard a specific event in SoCal being the catalyst. Wikipedia cites a school shooting in Stockton in 1989 and an office shooting in San Francisco in 1993. Outside of the state, Wikipedia also cites…

Reply All Podcast, ep 127/128 seemed to claim it's actually not that much better in NYC now. Instead they claim the way of reporting crimes has changed to make the numbers look better than they actually are

https://gimletmedia.com/shows/reply-all/o2hx34

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