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You don't seem to understand that this is not about us, but about the average joe who will never learn about PGP.
Average Joes routinely use PGP on the darknets. So we even have a good current example of how encryption used in crime can come in a form that this legislation is powerless against.
Back in late medieval europa most postal services had a back room, called cabinet noir where letters where carefully opened, read and resealed to check them for signs of treason against the crown or cross. These were often abused for what we today would call economic espionage. For these reasons many rich people employed private couriers who traveled to their business partners in person to hand over messages. Those w…
serious q: encryption challenges the authority of government and the power of its leaders. Why would they willingly give up this power, when they can manufacture consent[1] via a perpetual state of war[2] ? [1] https://www.google.com/search?q=manufacturing+consent [2] https://www.google.com/search?q=perpetual+war
Back in late medieval europa most postal services had a back room, called cabinet noir where letters where carefully opened, read and resealed to check them for signs of treason against the crown or cross. These were often abused for what we today would call economic espionage. For these reasons many rich people employed private couriers who traveled to their business partners in person to hand over messages. Those w…
>A society that mistrusts its own citizens to a point where all those that whisper to each other are called criminals, dealers, traitors or terrorists is rotten at its core. I mean you said it yourself, dealers. This is why I believe EARN IT will even be celebrated. Generations who accept a war on drugs as sane, did we ever think these people will produce offspring who can think for themselves? The ones who somehow d…
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Many options: - block access ala GFW, ensuring that most people will have difficulty accessing it or using it - block access to any data you cannot decrypt or from an endpoint you cannot backdoor - go after creators and ensure some kind of backdoor is inherent to the project - shut down projects by exerting pressure on developers - run some kind of propaganda campaign on the evils of using unsanctioned software (supp…
>go after creators and ensure some kind of backdoor is inherent to the project >shut down projects by exerting pressure on developers The developer probably just going to the press with that, no need to damage your own private centric project, sure the NSA can say they never did that so the developers can ignore it OR they openly say it was them, then the project just can change the country. >run some kind of propaga…
Because our priority is kids! Honestly! Seriously I mean it!
Back in late medieval europa most postal services had a back room, called cabinet noir where letters where carefully opened, read and resealed to check them for signs of treason against the crown or cross. These were often abused for what we today would call economic espionage. For these reasons many rich people employed private couriers who traveled to their business partners in person to hand over messages. Those w…
> Today many argue the state has a need to access such correspondence to prevent crime, but such a need is like the need of an addict: nothing good can come from it and the people should not enable these institutions to satisfy an ever growing demand for insight into their private lives. One must remember that democracy is founded on the believe that thoughts and words are not crimes and everyone must be free to expr…
In this regard I recommend you go look into the evidence on mass surveillance. There have been several reports done on the mass surveillance programs that have been operating since 2001 and in report after report, the mass surveillance has been found not only to be ineffective at producing any tips, it commonly just tied up law enforcement resources that could have been spent on their legitimate tips.
Here is a very well sourced article referencing several FBI internal reports, a white house appointed review group, those of non-profits, and local police departments:
* https://www.propublica.org/article/whats-the-evidence-mass-s...
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Exactly. I see this defeatism all the time regarding climate change too. It's OK to feel defeated. But why the hell would you spend energy to spread that defeatism?!
> I see this defeatism all the time regarding climate change too. And I see people suggest that we aren't completely screwed because we got 10,000 people to walk down a street one time. Its an insane position and we need dramatic measures that the human race in its current form are unable to enact. * Climate change is going to happen because people like cars and supermarkets and nobody is asking anyone to _actually_…
I think that the key point that should be addressed by those against this bill and these laws in general is: How to conduct legitimate law enforcement business and police investigations at a time when most communications have moved online? The reason the Attorney General and the DOJ want some sort of access to communications is not to undermine free speech and to take over the world, it is because they know that with…
>How do we solve this problem? We don't, we accept that encryption is part of the modern world and learn to live with it. Because there's nothing else you can do about it. See encryption is just math, and you can't really outlaw or limit how math is used. If we have bad actors who want to encrypt their communication, they absolutely can with or without this bill. Even if Whatsapp/Telegram/Whatever has to provide the…
Things the EARN-IT bill (reminder: supposedly designed to protect children) doesn't do: - Increase funding for child protective services & foster care services - Increase funding for parents (EBT, social work, etc) - Increase funding for schools (comprehensive sex ed, etc) Because our priority is kids! Honestly! Seriously I mean it!
Not that that would be bad, it's just that there are norms for who-does-what in gov't, and overlap of responsibilities is usually bad.
Back in late medieval europa most postal services had a back room, called cabinet noir where letters where carefully opened, read and resealed to check them for signs of treason against the crown or cross. These were often abused for what we today would call economic espionage. For these reasons many rich people employed private couriers who traveled to their business partners in person to hand over messages. Those w…