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Google Just Gave 2B Chrome Users a Reason to Switch to Firefox

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Re: Google Just Gave 2B Chrome Users a Reason to Switch to Firefox

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Post by chank »

mentalpiracy wrote: post #173
chank wrote: post #56

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Mostly this, performance is atrocious on a lot of sites I use. I also dislike its history management, download management, auto-complete, search in address bar functionality, pocket integration, and much more. I'm sure if I were forced to spend more time with it I could possibly find configurations to customize all those things in a way I like, but even using it for a few days the easily findable settings weren't fle…

I realize your comment says you’ve already switched back, but should you ever try Firefox again most of these can be tweaked directly from about:config

I know, but not enough to my preferences at least from as far as I dug into those settings.

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Post by chank »

house9-2 wrote: post #202
chank wrote: post #34

Tried out Firefox again a few days ago. Still prefer chrome. If add blocking becomes an issue with chrome, I'll definitely make the switch because of that and just hate it or go back to safari and hate it just as much

I also prefer Chrome; it has always felt more stable on Mac OSX; I often find myself with 50+ tabs open and it is no issue with Chrome, Firefox can't even come close. Have you checked out Brave Browser? https://brave.com/

Yes. As with firefox, they've made some design/ux decisions I'm not a fan of.

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Post by jm4 »

classicsnoot wrote: post #155
jm4 wrote: post #128

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It’s not mainstream media. It’s a contributor site. You can pay some money and get one of your own. You can post whatever you want on there. They offer to do a little bit of editing and proofreading to make it look professional before it goes online. There is no fact checking. These contributor sites are essentially blogs that carry the credibility of Forbes even though they don’t deserve it. I see contributor sites…

What are the "qualifications of a journalist?" They are people with opinions that write stuff. If you think journalism and writing departments are teaching rigor and factual veracity, you are mistaken. I've only come to it recently, but Gell-Mann Amnesia Affect is something to be aware of and avoid. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gell-Mann_amnesia_effect?wpr...

Quality and opinion of mainstream media aside, I think we can all appreciate the difference between someone paid for their work by a professional news outlet and someone off the street who is paying Forbes to host their blog.

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Post by behnamoh »

defined wrote: post #191
behnamoh wrote: post #170

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It's not just that. Exporting Passwords from Chrome to FF is impossible in macOS. Not a day goes by that I don't have to enter my password for a website. Thus, switching to FF actually means re-entering tens of passwords manually (given that you do remember the passwords, otherwise you'll have to go to Passwords Manager in Chrome and see the saved passwords).

Might it be worth using a password manager instead, like 1Password, or KeePass and its variants?

Maybe, but the problem of exporting passwords from Chrome still exists.

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Post by josefx »

treis wrote: post #207
josefx wrote: post #188

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The next Chrome standard manifest says that ad blockers are a deprecated feature since they hurt Googles business. Looking a bit further (into possible future business needs of Alphabet) you might see that chrome will refuse to serve anything not based on Googles AMP standard and globally remove anything that hurts their partnership with the Chinese government. This is the single standard JS engine we are looking for…

>The next Chrome standard manifest says that ad blockers are a deprecated feature since they hurt Googles business. Ad blocking isn't part of the rendering or JS engine. >Looking a bit further (into possible future business needs of Alphabet) you might see that chrome will refuse to serve anything not based on Googles AMP standard and globally remove anything that hurts their partnership with the Chinese government.…

> Ad blocking isn't part of the rendering or JS engine.

If we believe Google it is in a very performance sensitive part of the APIs, I would say that makes it a prime target for future optimizations just to hard wire the performant behavior directly into the engine.

> This is just unsubstantiated fear mongering and mostly flat out wrong.

Of course we can always count on a profit driven company to do the right thing and there was never a project Dragonfly at Google, just as there was never a Tiananmen Square massacre. Trust in Alphabets morality absolutely, trust that when they are doing something obviously wrong that they are doing it for the right reasons.

> Google rammed something like that into Chromium everyone else could just fork it

Maintaining a fork is going to be quite difficult when upstream wants you dead, already ships black box modules for some features and represents the de facto standard for 99% of the world.

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Post by rusticpotato »

andybak wrote: post #163
rusticpotato wrote: post #141

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Sticking to the apple ecosystem will essentially avoid this fiasco with relying on electron apps. Basically i see three developer types right now: windows, apple, Linux for primary (personal and office). Sticking to apple allows you to sidestep this windows cluster f of expensive apps and shitty electron apps, and the Linux void of polished apps.

When I switched from Windows to Mac a while back it struck me that I needed to rely on paid apps a lot more. There seemed to be more quality freeware for Windows. I'm also running a fair few Electron apps on my Mac at the moment.

As long as it’s not subscription and not over $50, and it’s a quality app, I tend to pay for it. I prefer quality and performance over quantity and free

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Post by torben-friis »

outadoc wrote: post #199
torben-friis wrote: post #140

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I just wish they finally fixed the bug that makes it unusable for me and thousands of other users using macbooks with resolution set to "more space"... I can't count how many people in my office I've had to help after their macbook randomly starts heating and turning fans to max power, it's always that they started using firefox. I've been checking the tickets associated with the issue (mainly [this one]( https://bug…

Oh god! That's why my battery life is better since switching back to the standard resolution. What an awful bug.

Indeed.

In my experience the bug is usually overlooked because people won't notice that they only have performance issues when the browser is open - for most people, the browser is always running nowadays.

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