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Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

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Post by Juliate »

Funes- wrote: post #76

This will be an unpopular perspective on the matter, so you have been warned: Article 13 only affects for-profit platforms that host and share copyrighted material. These platforms are run by big corporations that turn a huge profit by way of selling your personal data, violating your privacy, and having a persuasive (addictive) design in order to glue you to the screen so they can maximize their ad revenue, dismissi…

One could even argue that this could trigger a new wave of self-hosting/publishing.

Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

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Post by stronglikedan »

Funes- wrote: post #76

This will be an unpopular perspective on the matter, so you have been warned: Article 13 only affects for-profit platforms that host and share copyrighted material. These platforms are run by big corporations that turn a huge profit by way of selling your personal data, violating your privacy, and having a persuasive (addictive) design in order to glue you to the screen so they can maximize their ad revenue, dismissi…

> Article 13 only affects for-profit platforms that host and share copyrighted material.

For now, but where will it stop (or will it)? Another commentor pointed out that even small services running ads to pay for hosting could be considered "for-profit". Maybe not now, but it's just a matter of when. First they came for the platforms run by big corporations...

Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

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Post by moate »

Angostura wrote: post #129
DarkWiiPlayer wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To make my point a bit clearer: I am almost convinced now that "representative democracy" shouldn't count as a "democracy" just because the population can vote who they get ####ed by. It only works as long as the representatives see it as their duty to represent the will of the voters accurately, which I'm starting to believe is an antithesis to human behavior, and thus will never be the norm. I'm not saying that Eur…

> It only works as long as the representatives see it as their duty to represent the will of the voters accurately That's not really the idea behind representative democracy. It's supposed to work that you vote for the person whose values intelligence and approach to policy you agree with, and they use their skill and judgement from there on in - you can of course lobby them on issues.

Right, but the problem is often the 'lesser of two evils' voting options. There's no choice present for me that I feel represents what I want/need in an elected official. I'm not voting for what I want, I'm just making sure that what I loathe doesn't get into office.

This is the problem with representative democracy; it assumes there's a good proxy for my voice, and there increasingly isn't

Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

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Post by bashwizard »

aembleton wrote: post #177
cbg0 wrote: post #18

A bunch of people are about to lose their seats in the upcoming European Parliament elections in May.

Doubt it. I don't think many people know or care about this.

Just wait until they eventually are greeted with a notice "Sorry, we've blocked all users from Europe due to the new copyright reform" on every major social media site/app.

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Post by swebs »

maxmunzel wrote: post #115
DarkWiiPlayer wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe someone can explain to me why the hell France (or the rest of the EU) even cares about where Germany gets their gas from in the first place?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nord_Stream See #Controvery

I don't see anything about France. Just that Eastern European countries don't like that the pipeline allows them to be bypassed.

Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

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Post by aldoushuxley001 »

varjag wrote: post #208

A wild guess: nothing changes, or things even improve somewhat. Not very invested into content distribution. If it has chilling effect on social networks, so be it. And memes can die for all I care.

Europe is more likely to be hived off from rest of internet as most companies won't cater to such nonsense. Progress continues, just less so in Europe.

Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

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Post by pndy »

lgrebe wrote: post #3

„German newspaper FAZ reports its investigation found strong indications that Germany traded its support for the #copyright deal for French concessions on Russian gas #northstream2„ https://edition.faz.net/faz-edition/wirtschaft/2019-03-26/f3... Via https://twitter.com/Senficon/status/1110278976654794753?s=20

This is the first example of French-German "leadership" about which Marcon and Merkel were talking in the end of 2018. EU just enter hegemony phase of these two countries and I believe nothing good will come out of it for European structures and the continent.

Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

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Post by cift »

madjam002 wrote: post #148
jackweirdy wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not quite true: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-29448058

That’s an outdated article, it has since been made illegal again.

Not quite true

> Under the new regulations, only the individual who purchased the original copy of the work, and not others such as a friend or family, is legally allowed to copy it.

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jul/17/high-court-q...

Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

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Post by marcodave »

ralala wrote: post #182
Funes- wrote: post #76

This will be an unpopular perspective on the matter, so you have been warned: Article 13 only affects for-profit platforms that host and share copyrighted material. These platforms are run by big corporations that turn a huge profit by way of selling your personal data, violating your privacy, and having a persuasive (addictive) design in order to glue you to the screen so they can maximize their ad revenue, dismissi…

This also affects small online communities, who pay for their servers by running a few ads. There are a lot of these platforms.

> small online communities, who pay for their servers by running a few ads

if those communities are aiming for a break even at best, would those as well be considered "for profit", though?

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