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Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by tivert »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #207
ForHackernews wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe if users were willing to pay for a browser, they wouldn't be so desperately scrambling around for non-Google revenue sources. They could try to offer some kind of "pay us to forgo marketing partnerships" deal, but I somehow doubt even most of the well-paid privacy advocates on HN would sign up.

> They could try to offer some kind of "pay us to forgo marketing partnerships" deal, but I somehow doubt even most of the well-paid privacy advocates on HN would sign up. I would pay for this, provided it was a one time payment! (I feel I need to add that caveat nowadays, since subscriptions are all the rage.)

> I would pay for this, provided it was a one time payment!

The problem is that web browsers require some of the most intensive software maintenance of any software, ever. They're one of the most exposed attack surfaces to external security threats; and piles of new features are unfortunately getting continuously added to web standards, which need to be supported for compatibility reasons.

I think a one time tip-jar payment makes sense for a lot of software, but not for web browsers. I think a subscription-type contribution makes the most sense for them.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by prolepunk »

curt15 wrote: post #81

What would it take for firefox to support Gmail's offline mode?

I'm not trolling (that's propbably not a good opening).

You can connect to Gmail using IMAP with Thunderbird.

With google creating new email apps and then killing them off (hello Inbox!) having one consistent interface with programmable filters gives me most of what I want.

I used to complain about how dated thunderbird interface looked, but now I find consistency of it to be a feature.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

x0x0 wrote: post #45
NamTaf wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In addition to this: Even though the link claims that it is not a paid placement, it's still an advertisement. If Mozilla really wants to provide more value to me, they'll tell me how to permanently disable it. Its presence provides negative value to me.

I would suggest you consider this: with Microsoft moving Edge to chromium, there are now only 3 engines standing: Chromium, webkit, and gecko. Therefore Firefox is important to deny Google enormous control over the browser and therefore the internet. Firefox desperately needs a revenue stream that is independent from Google. Although Google has not done so yet -- it's imo very valuable to Google to preserve the illus…

Does the Mozilla foundation accept private donations? Even if they do, they clearly don't push it enough.

I have no idea if it would bring in enough revenue, but it would presumably help? I'd much prefer a Wikipedia-esque donation request on the new tab page than any of Mozilla's other partnerships.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by kemenaran »

pyr0hu wrote: post #112

Is it just me, or the font used by FF is changed on OSX? It's a bit crispier and it's not antialiased

Are you on macOS Mojave?

If yes, it could be because Firefox started honoring the system font settings of Mojave [1].

Enabling font smoothing in System Preferences now results in slighlty bolder fonts, and grayscale font smoothing. Firefox and Chrome needed some time to adjust to these settings, but now have the same rendering than the rest of the system.

[1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1495282

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by jhasse »

shmerl wrote: post #185

Is there any progress with GPU accelerated video decoding / encoding in the Linux version? Now that WebRender is in place it should be possible? Without it, any WebRTC video conferencing applications are very CPU heavy, which cripples them on laptops especially.

I don't think WebRender has anything to do with accelerated video decoding.

Here's the bug btw: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1210727

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

numbsafari wrote: post #32

I wish Mozilla started to compete with Google on ChromeOS. Just make it the browser and leverage containers to keep things locked down. There’s a total business here and Mozilla could make it happen, without the entanglements of the ads business. Real missed opportunity to help promote open standards at the services level as well.

I'm kind of surprised no one has put something like this together as a hobby project. Just make a custom version of Debian which autoboots Firefox...

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by jhasse »

Shorel wrote: post #193
ekianjo wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly that's a very poor rationale. People should be choosing Firefox because it's a better product or a more ethical one (sadly they are doing a poor job at convincing us of that), not because we need to keep a competitor alive forever no matter what.

Right now, it is both, it is a better product and a more ethical one. If people will not use it for these reasons now, then they will not be able to use it in the future. That's the argument, and it seems pretty straightforward to me.

> it is a better product

Maybe for you. For me, it's unuseable until they add hardware accelerated video decoding.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by fxfan »

bovine3dom wrote: post #160
fxfan wrote: post #117

Still waiting for vimperator so I can use browser like I used to use only 2 years back. Tridactyl is good but no :map, no :js and alphabets instead of numbers for links.

When did you last look at Tridactyl? - :js is there - You can have numbers with :set hintstyle numeric - You can have Vimperator style link filtering with :set hintfiltermode vimperator - There's no map (and probably never will be), but you can bind sequences of keys to "ex-commands", which is probably 99% of what you want, e.g, :bind t open google what time is it The main problem I have with Tridactyl is that it's p…

You're godsent- `:js` is there now and it works!

I tried `:set hintstyle numeric` and the command was accepted but it didn't work. Same for `hintfiltermode`. But that they exist means I it's probably me doing something wrong.

I couldn't get bind to work the way I wanted- I typed `:` followed by `bind w :tabnext` but that didn't work.

Also, C-i for opening vim on textareas and C-c for cancelling a page load don't work either.

I'm beginning to think though that "all" stuff already there, it just works differently (JS wasn't there when I tried a few months back) so I just need to re-read the documentation and not expect everything to work "exactly" like vimperator.

Thank you so much! You've changed my life (partially :))

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Post by fxfan »

driverdan wrote: post #122
fxfan wrote: post #117

Still waiting for vimperator so I can use browser like I used to use only 2 years back. Tridactyl is good but no :map, no :js and alphabets instead of numbers for links.

Have you tried Vimium?

No I have not- I think they were not trying for full vimperator compatibility and now your sibling comment has informed me that tridactyl is already close. So I probably won't try to switch... :)
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