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Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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I feel like I've been waiting a long time for autoplay blocking - does this keep being pushed back or have I missed a feature cancellation/config setting/extension announcement?

This. I switched to FF 20 years ago because of the popup killer. Autoplay is the new popup.

Ok sorry it wasn't 20 years but something like like 15-12 but anyway it was a long time ago folks !

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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In addition to this: Even though the link claims that it is not a paid placement, it's still an advertisement. If Mozilla really wants to provide more value to me, they'll tell me how to permanently disable it. Its presence provides negative value to me.

I would suggest you consider this: with Microsoft moving Edge to chromium, there are now only 3 engines standing: Chromium, webkit, and gecko. Therefore Firefox is important to deny Google enormous control over the browser and therefore the internet. Firefox desperately needs a revenue stream that is independent from Google. Although Google has not done so yet -- it's imo very valuable to Google to preserve the illus…

Just to clarify Chromium (browser) uses Blink, which is a fork of Webkit. IMO the consolidation demonstrates the complexity involved.

The alternative is subscription. That hasn't fared too well traditionally in browser space for a few decades. Maybe the Brave approach might work, where a fraction goes to the browser vendor akin to a transaction fee?

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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I'll happily use a (marginally) inferior competitor because I value competition for its own sake. I use Firefox, DuckDuckGo, Bing Maps.

Yes, you can do that. But if you want it to be sustainable, you can't use that kind of line to convince people at large. And note that until Firefox 57, Firefox was not "marginally" inferior, it was substantially inferior in a number of metrics. They have improved since then, but it took them a very long time - you can't expect users to wait forever for you.

If we can't expect educated, tech-savvy users on HN to take the long view and support Mozilla, then I guess you're saying the game is already lost.

We might as well just make our peace that the age of an open internet and general-purpose computing is coming to an end. In future, we'll enjoy AOL 2.0 access on our Google Home Terminal Appliances.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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"Choose Firefox now, or later you won't have a choice" https://robert.ocallahan.org/2014/08/choose-firefox-now-or-l...

Honestly that's a very poor rationale. People should be choosing Firefox because it's a better product or a more ethical one (sadly they are doing a poor job at convincing us of that), not because we need to keep a competitor alive forever no matter what.

Since Quantum, I actually find it to be a better product.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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A question regarding the advertisements they show on the home page: https://www.neowin.net/news/firefox-640-is-now-showing-a-boo... Are these ads introduced with these updates, or does Firefox include a backdoor so the Mozilla Corporation can show whatever they want on your home page?

How do you think Mozilla gets the money to pay their hundreds of developers? The ads on their homepage are far more benign than their google search integration which pays hundreds of millions per year.

As far as I know, it's also personalized completely locally.

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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At the risk of a downvote storm, a few months ago I tried to switch from Chrome to Firefox until I had a call of two hours via Google Hangouts and Firefox started to degrade the voice until a point of no return. I don't know if this is common in very demanding "web apps".

it's common on google apps ;)

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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Recently switched from chromium to Firefox. Very pleased with its performance. Android Firefox demolishes chrome too but probably just because I no longer need to download and render all the ads (thanks ublock.) While I was at it I also took the chance to migrate passwords out of Google land into Bitwarden. Session restore is amazing, my .cache is tmpfs but it still manages to instantly recover all my tabs on reboot.…

Can you expand on how you set up the profile + containers + vpn and how that works for you?

Think he means this addon: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account...

At least that's for controlling them easily. I use it for Whatsapp web on 2 accounts

Re: Firefox 65.0 released

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I don't understand why Firefox doesn't include an option to download the .deb package instead of tar file for Ubuntu and Debian during release announcements. The market share is already shrinking and why make it harder for people to install or upgrade Firefox? Chrome does it. Why can't Firefox do that as well?

Dunno whether the Debian/Ubuntu team does anything with the packages, but on Fedora at least, the Firefox RPM usually gets held for a few days so that the Fedora QA team can do their own testing before releasing the package to the public.
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