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YouTube top earners: A seven-year-old making $22M

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Post by foldr »

WalterBright wrote: post #168
dagw wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it funds composers. What country are you in? Definitely if you're in the US or Europe there are plenty of places you can apply for government funding if you're a composer. Also if the government is funding the concert hall and that funding lets the concert hall put on work by and pay a composer, at what point does it stop being government funding?

Just out of curiosity, can you name a CD produced in the US by a composer paid by the government to compose? > at what point does it stop being government funding? It's a good question, and I replied to that in another comment.

Why does there have to be a CD? Music ≠ recorded music.

http://www.playbill.com/article/national-endowment-of-the-ar...

https://www.musicofremembrance.org/news/national-endowment-a...

If you specifically want an example of a grant being awarded to a composer for the purposes of composing a new piece, see here:

https://www.broadwayworld.com/bwwclassical/article/Chicago-P...

"The Chicago Philharmonic Society has been named the recipient of a $10,000 Art Works grant from the National Endowment for the Arts. The award will support a collaboration between The Chicago Philharmonic Society, composer Augusta Read Thomas, and Chicago-based percussion ensemble Third Coast Percussion for the creation and performance of a new work for percussion quartet and orchestra. The premiere will be presented in fall 2017 as part of the Chicago Philharmonic's 2017-2018 symphonic season."

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Post by thetricia »

andai wrote: post #123
alan_wade wrote: post #119

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Computers, internet, youtube, games - these things are a part of a real world. I mean, they aren't a hallucination, they don't exist on a separate plane of reality. Experiences are real, joy they bring is real, and for many people, it's far better than what the "real" world around them has to offer. If people are tempted to escape into a virtual world, it might be because the real world around them sucks.

Technology is designed as a hyperstimulus. The real world (suffering aside) sucks the same way fruit sucks compared with candy.

And the last century has shown us that while the preference for candy/sugar might have created a big obesity problem, we're still around and there's no going back. The jury is still out whether or not it's inherently bad.

Not being online-savy would put me at a social disadvantage. I'm in my early 20s. My impression is that it's only more so for younger ones. When people talk of "real-world social skills" they usually mean the ones that made sense during their adulthood.

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Post by ovi256 »

andai wrote: post #123
alan_wade wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Computers, internet, youtube, games - these things are a part of a real world. I mean, they aren't a hallucination, they don't exist on a separate plane of reality. Experiences are real, joy they bring is real, and for many people, it's far better than what the "real" world around them has to offer. If people are tempted to escape into a virtual world, it might be because the real world around them sucks.

Technology is designed as a hyperstimulus. The real world (suffering aside) sucks the same way fruit sucks compared with candy.

Turns out it's a real term in psychology:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernormal_stimulus

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Post by SyneRyder »

WalterBright wrote: post #167
dagw wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven't got the slightest clue, nor do I care. And more importantly what do you mean by funded? If the local council offer free or subsidized rehearsal space to local up and coming bands, is the album they created there "government funded"?

I'd say no. But some people would say that the road the band used to drive around was government funded, therefore their music is. I don't agree with them. I'd say government funding is when the government pays money to a specific artist to produce art. Like when a record company decides to pay a band to produce an album, or a publisher decides to give an advance to an author to write a book.

Australian here - I just discovered today that our current right/conservative government has a program where artists can receive a $15,000 grant to record their album [1], and the left/progressive opposition has pledged to double the number of grant recipients if elected [2]. I can't say I've heard of any of the 2017 grant recipients.

[1] http://www.australiacouncil.gov.au/news/media-centre/media-r...

[2] https://www.theindustryobserver.com.au/labor-promises-28m-fo...

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Post by peteretep »

anonymous5133 wrote: post #108
TravHatesMe wrote: post #16

What I find interesting is that many of these youtubers have created personas to appeal to their audience, like true entertainers. However loyal viewers are fooled into this false sense of reality, where they are friends with content creator and this is not a persona at all, he's my friend. Over time, the content creator and the audience share so many moments together, it becomes an emotional bond and a substitute fo…

My GF is an elementary school teacher and she says the amount of kids who are developing anti-social behaviors is increasing pretty rapidly. Kids these days have computers and are basically simply "escaping" to the internet to live in a fantasy world that is disconnected from reality. Some even display active addictions to computer games, like minecraft, while others say they only have friends online in the games or…

> My GF is an elementary school teacher and she says

Respectfully, I've spent a _great deal of time_ with elementary school teachers, and many appear very very willing to diagnose random children, adults, and coworkers as being "a bit autistic", and so on.

In addition, and assuming wildly here, how old is she? If you're the HN average of about 30, and she's about your age, she doesn't really have a cross-generational experience to pull from, even assuming she was making observations free of the very many cognitive biases one would expect in this situation.

My bet would be that if you found a teacher -- from almost any point in history -- and asked them what the kids are like in their time period, they'd tell you about the latest inventions that have made their kids uniquely awful and anti-social. I'll spare you pulling out the 3,000 year-old quotes about how "young people these days don't respect their elders".

If there are some studies that show it, I'd be all for it. Teacher anecdotes are uniquely poor quality samples, in my opinion.

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Post by dagw »

WalterBright wrote: post #168
dagw wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it funds composers. What country are you in? Definitely if you're in the US or Europe there are plenty of places you can apply for government funding if you're a composer. Also if the government is funding the concert hall and that funding lets the concert hall put on work by and pay a composer, at what point does it stop being government funding?

Just out of curiosity, can you name a CD produced in the US by a composer paid by the government to compose? > at what point does it stop being government funding? It's a good question, and I replied to that in another comment.

Just out of curiosity, can you name a CD produced in the US by a composer paid by the government to compose?

No, but if really I wanted to find one I'd probably start by looking here: https://www.arts.gov/ and then continue looking at smaller and more local arts grants. Also I'm sure that at some point some part of the government has commissioned new music for some project or event, although it's quite possible that that music has never been released on a CD.

But again it's all down to how you draw the line. Are you asking if there are composers on the federal payroll or if a composer has ever won a government grant and uses the money for that grant to pay his rent while continuing to compose?

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Post by deadbunny »

qwertay wrote: post #127
a_imho wrote: post #126

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Youtube is turning 14 next year and computers have been mainstream way longer than that. Personally I was a kid when it was the TVs fault and video games were making kids violent, but imo things turned out just fine.

Trading card games and D&D is ruining kids.

Kids these days don't know they're born! When I was a kid I had a stick and I was happy!

Cue Monty Python sketch

Re: YouTube top earners: A seven-year-old making $22M

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Post by dagw »

WalterBright wrote: post #167
dagw wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven't got the slightest clue, nor do I care. And more importantly what do you mean by funded? If the local council offer free or subsidized rehearsal space to local up and coming bands, is the album they created there "government funded"?

I'd say no. But some people would say that the road the band used to drive around was government funded, therefore their music is. I don't agree with them. I'd say government funding is when the government pays money to a specific artist to produce art. Like when a record company decides to pay a band to produce an album, or a publisher decides to give an advance to an author to write a book.

Don't know about the US, but in the EU I know there are grants you can apply for to help cover the cost of recording an album.

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Post by cauldron »

ravenstine wrote: post #2

> As he is still a child, 15% of Ryan's earnings are put into a bank account that he can only access when he becomes a legal adult. Why 15%? Why not 100%? Why not even 50%? Should this sit right with me? I want to believe this child isn't being exploited. EDIT: Thanks for clearing that up for me. It seems I was misunderstanding.

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