Brave files adtech complaint against Google

Post by berbec » Thu, Sep 13, 2018, 3:19 AM UTC

valarauca1 wrote: post #78

britch wrote: post #60

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I'm curious, do you have any evidence that most people are installing ad blockers as a privacy measure? I don't have any hard evidence, but I imagine most people block ads because they don't want to have to scroll past a bunch of banners and videos to read the article they want to read. Certainly there are many people who are concerned about privacy, but I don' think that's what's driving the popularity of ad blocker…

I'm going to second this. My usage of ad-blockers is to make webpages _readiable_. When ever the privacy aspect of it comes up its like, "well that's nice." Just the bandwidth overhead of ads alone makes it worth it.

Post by berbec » Thu, Sep 13, 2018, 3:33 AM UTC

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andirk wrote: post #197

Via advertising networks, I have been able to send messages to my friends via vanilla advertising campaigns. If you are not aware, understand that your internet activity can pinpoint you exact via simple ad networks and nothing else. I like Brave.

I would love to read more about how you did this. I bet it would be illuminating for many HN readers.

Post by nostrademons » Thu, Sep 13, 2018, 3:44 AM UTC

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I'd bet it's a PR stunt. They're getting all kinds of publicity from this. ...that said, I installed Brave this weekend and am posting this comment from it, and I gotta say that it's really nice viewing a web without ads. I'd forgotten how pleasant browsing the web can be when you're not downloading the 100 or so ads & trackers on a typical news article and playing cat-and-mouse with their anti-AdBlock code. So from…

Or you can just install uBlock Origin. I don't see what Brave brings to the table.

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Sep 13, 2018, 3:56 AM UTC

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So can I ask, how would I as a website developer do that? If I don't want you blocking my ads, costing me money for servers and hosting, and removing my income stream, how do is signal to you or enforce that I will only send you content on the stipulation that you make a few promises on what you will display? Because in my experience, offering paid options to remove all ads and tracking if you want doesn't stop or ev…

Sounds like you've covered all the bases, including shutting down your service, but you've rejected every option that doesn't involve selling out your users to advertises. It comes off as a sense of entitlement that you have some sort of right to profit off this service when you don't.

Post by ehnto » Thu, Sep 13, 2018, 4:24 AM UTC

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Ads honest? And their intent is clear? What is honest or clear about an ad that says "doctors dont want you to know this"?

That's not the point. The point is the ad is clearly marked and separate from the content you want to see. The other type of ad is known as "selling out." Where a legit content creator abuses their viewers trust in them to put out false information for financial gain. I would much rather have the first option. Although I think a paid tier with no ads is respectable as well.