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It's time to head back to RSS?

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Re: It's time to head back to RSS?

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Can anyone clarify to me: why do people use web RSS readers, as opposed to local applications?

For me personally it's mainly about synchronisation. I use feedly on my phone, tablet and laptop and never have to see or archive a story twice. Plus i can star/save an interesting story on my laptop and read it on my phone later, say while commuting.

Same here, although I use a self-hosted TinyTinyRSS server rather than a third-party service.

Re: It's time to head back to RSS?

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I never stopped using an RSS reader, or writing on my own blog, hosted on my setup, with my domain for that matter.

For its purpose an RSS reader is a much better experience than everything else.

The only thing that comes close is Twitter, but it’s too noisy, you can lose really good, but less popular articles, between all the other shit happening on Twitter. It’s also addictive and time consuming.

Sure, go back to RSS, but some of us never left it and we’ve been enjoying it.

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I completely agree. When did RSS go out of style anyway? The other day I wanted to subscribe to an author's posts on Medium, but I couldn't find a RSS feed anywhere, so I never did. Seems like a loss for the author to me, seeing as gaining influence and credibility is probably the goal of many who write posts. It would also seem as if Medium doesn't want to add RSS as it would take control away in terms of recommendi…

It went out of style for the mainstream because they haven't (yet) figured out how to lace it with ads.

John Gruber (daringfireball.com) charges around $7000 a week for one sponsored RSS article on Sunday and a follow up post thanking the sponsor on Friday. It can be done for small publishers in a tasteful way.

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Interesting you say that, I got into podcasts recently (a bit late I know) and found the space very confusing. It's kind'of all on iTunes, but not really, you can get them from their source sites, but also some apps have a subset. Understanding the model is not easy. I didn't know it was powered by rss until this thread. I am really pro federation, and I am not deterred, but I am an engineer on HN. I wonder why email…

The email protocols are hell. Absolute hell. I don’t think anyone truly groks how it works all the way down either. A big difference is that email has slowly been developed over a period of decades, and so a lot of great software (both libs and GUIs) were built on top of it, and “perfected” over the time. Maybe what prevented RSS from reaching the same level of development is that RSS is only composed by “creators”,…

> Maybe what prevented RSS from reaching the same level of development is that RSS is only composed by “creators”, while email has no target audience.

I blame social media. It's basically their agenda to offer everything within there walled garden. And so it was only natural that FB at some point disabled RSS.

Fortunately, wordpress generates RSS per default so many will keep providing rss feeds (without even knowing about it)

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I use TinyTinyRSS. Works pretty well. Fully free unlike services such as Feedly, just like Reader was back in the day.

Works well on any shared hosting or VPS etc. as long as you've got PHP/MySQL/Postgres and the ability to setup a CRON job (CPanel/Plesk give you this) or the daemon.

Re: It's time to head back to RSS?

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I think you and HN in general vastly overstates the gravitas of the Google Reader shutdown. I loved it too but the demise of RSS happened probably more because of people switching to Twitter, Facebook and others as their "aggregator" than by killing off one RSS-Reader.

If Google had just added comments or other social elements to their reader instead of killing it they might not have missed the boat. Instead they killed their popular Reader and made Orkut and Google Plus.

They did have comments and other social elements [0]. It was possible to follow people and share articles with or without adding your own note to it. They had a bookmarklet that allowed you to share any article, even if it didn't have an RSS feed. Their move to Google+ sharing wasn't exactly an improvement though [1].

I never got why people moved to Twitter, it wasn't, and isn't, as good at consuming or sharing content as Reader was. It's just one more step towards the more centralized web we have today, and hopefully we will move back to a more decentralized experience soon.

[0] http://googlereader.blogspot.se/2009/03/google-reader-is-you... [1] http://googlereader.blogspot.se/2011/10/new-in-reader-fresh-...

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