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It's time to head back to RSS?

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Re: It's time to head back to RSS?

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For those getting into RSS, I can recommend two resources.

For a SaaS newsreader, I really enjoyed using Newsblur. Great service, excellent functionality, and first-rate support.

For a desktop newsreader, I suggest Emacs with elfeed. That's what I use today, and is the only reason I'm not still happily paying for Newsblur.

Re: It's time to head back to RSS?

#142

For those getting into RSS, I can recommend two resources. For a SaaS newsreader, I really enjoyed using Newsblur. Great service, excellent functionality, and first-rate support. For a desktop newsreader, I suggest Emacs with elfeed. That's what I use today, and is the only reason I'm not still happily paying for Newsblur.

You lost me at Emacs.

Re: It's time to head back to RSS?

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I've been aggregating my news for my own use recently so I can keep a database of articles and grab articles from more sources than just RSS (some are parsed out of HTML). The Python code for some of the sources is here: https://github.com/wybiral/stream-sources On my network there's a bunch of those stream sources feeding into a Golang server that stores the articles and aggregates the ones I'm interested in for rea…

Generally speaking, is it legal storing RSS content (if the RSS contains the article)

It's for my own use.

Also I don't see why it would be any different than leaving it open in my browser or something.

The articles here are mostly title, link, summary too. So not too unlike what someone would share on social media or something.

Re: It's time to head back to RSS?

#144

I'm interested in a reader that focuses on efficiency; like probably most people, no matter how much I try to cull them I end up with too many items in my list, more than I have time for. Let's say it takes an average of 2.5 seconds to read a feed item subject line, decide whether to read it[0], and nothing else - not opening or reading any articles. In half an hour of concentration you could do that with ~700 feed i…

Stress from bolded lines of unread articles can be overwhelming.

In FeedDemon, a desktop based reader, there is a tool called the Panic button that is triggered when you have a lot of unreads (or that you can trigger manually). It displays the following message:

You have 591 unread articles. This isn't email - you don't have to read everything. Perhaps it's time to hit the panic button and let FeedDemon mark articles as read for you?

Then you can mark all articles older than say 48H or 5 days as read automatically.

As a basic feature you can group feeds and there is a button that let you mark all articles in a group (or a single feed) as read, so for chatty feeds you can just skim the titles and if nothing mandates further reading you can clear it up.

The real trick though for me is to revisit your RSS list regularly, say once a year, and not be afraid to remove or filter feeds that post too many articles. Some big blogs in their niche post several "news" pieces per day.

What was great was Yahoo Pipes, where you could filter, merge and transform feeds into new feeds. So you could grab a feed from a chatty blog and filter it on some keyword for the subniche you are interested in, then do that on several sources and merge all these into one consolidated feed.

Re: It's time to head back to RSS?

#145

Have been using https://inoreader.com since the Year Google Reader closed, and imho, it's better than Feedly. I'm also usually reading HN via my full-text feed. Meaning, I don't have to load a link every time, I focus on the articles first, and I can easily pre-load everything for offline reading on mobile. I think, in case of RSS such online services are superior to self-hosted solutions - whether server or client -…

What makes it better than Feedly? I've been using Feedly since Google Reader closed and I think it pretty much nails this simple tool. How is it even possible to be much better?

I also tried out Feedly and about 5 different readers when I needed to switch. Inoreader had the best UI and was free.

Re: It's time to head back to RSS?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> When did RSS go out of style anyway? It went away when Google killed Reader. Reader had more or less killed off the independent RSS reader market. When it got shuttered, alternatives weren't well developed and people shifted more or less entirely onto Twitter. The Twitter shift had been happening already but the shutdown kind of forced the issue.

I think you and HN in general vastly overstates the gravitas of the Google Reader shutdown. I loved it too but the demise of RSS happened probably more because of people switching to Twitter, Facebook and others as their "aggregator" than by killing off one RSS-Reader.

If Google had just added comments or other social elements to their reader instead of killing it they might not have missed the boat.

Instead they killed their popular Reader and made Orkut and Google Plus.

Re: It's time to head back to RSS?

#149
To me, RSS and Twitter/FB/etc are very different things. With RSS you are „alone“ while reading it. There’s no one to discuss things with you. I‘m not really qualified to make this statement, but I‘d say RSS feeds don’t have a social component, leaving your limbic system (responsible for social interaction) widely out of the process. You process the info and that’s it.

With Twitter, everything is attached to a social context. If a link is posted by your personal idol, you engage in (pseudo?) social behavior if you read it. You may then feel compelled to discuss it, and you will feel rejected if nobody answers, or very good if you get a lot of likes. So, lots of limbic/social interaction.

Both have their merits.. without Twitter, I would have a content discovery problem, and with (only) Twitter I‘ll live in a bubble, plus my IRL social interactions might be somewhat crowded out by the interactions on Twitter, plus Twitter can make me feel socially miserable for very petty reasons.

Personally I would love a system that combines my personal RSS feed with recommendations resulting from mining Twitter and applying ML to generate relevant results.

Re: It's time to head back to RSS?

#150

I completely agree. When did RSS go out of style anyway? The other day I wanted to subscribe to an author's posts on Medium, but I couldn't find a RSS feed anywhere, so I never did. Seems like a loss for the author to me, seeing as gaining influence and credibility is probably the goal of many who write posts. It would also seem as if Medium doesn't want to add RSS as it would take control away in terms of recommendi…

It went out of style for the mainstream because they haven't (yet) figured out how to lace it with ads.
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