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If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by pfranz »

mi100hael wrote: post #203
sbd01 wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After my previous MacBooks became buggier and less responsive after updating, I decided to abstain from updating altogether. I'm still on El Capitan, and while there are some bugs and rather baffling programs (z.B. the updated Disk Utility), they are far and few between compared to the High Sierra experience on my other computers. Perhaps you could consider downgrading?

That's not really a sustainable solution, though. At some point, 3rd party developers quit supporting old systems and Apple quits issuing security patches. If I had my way, time would've froze with 10.6.8.

It depends on what you do. I have a friend still happily running SL. He's curious about the new version of Lightroom, but still using the old version just fine.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by dylan-m »

taternuts wrote: post #188
wlesieutre wrote: post #159

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Incidentally if anyone's looking for a mouse, Logitech really handles this perfectly. When it's plugged in to USB they use the cable for power + data so there's a tiny bit less latency and no worries about signal dropping. It switches the data to the wireless dongle automatically if the cable is unplugged. The mouse runs off of a single rechargable AA battery (came with an Eneloop brand NiMH which are well regarded).…

I second the recommendation, been using a logitech performance MX mouse for probably 4-5 years now. My company gave out the apple mouse and I made them specially order the MX for me. I am a creature of comfort though as I did the same for my keyboard.

I did the same. I tried to use the Apple mouse for a couple months, I really did, but I felt my wrists turning into frozen fish and decided enough was enough. (This was the previous generation mouse where you needed to replace the AA batteries yourself, like a barbarian. Are the current ones shaped any differently at least?). Brought in my old Das Keyboard while I was at it. World of difference. And I don't feel any less cool, despite there being several physical buttons and a hole on the side of my mouse.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by eridius »

kerouanton wrote: post #104
eridius wrote: post #7

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It doesn't. The bug is Disk Utility was setting the password as the password hint.

well, strictly speaking storing the password itself is a good hint, no?

One might say it's too good.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by brandon272 »

coleca wrote: post #172
planetjones wrote: post #50

The lack of attention to detail by Apple recently e.g. code reviews, in house testing is clearly too low. I have seen too many software failures recently from this company. Like photos freezing on my new iMac (before High Sierra), numerous issues with iOS (I remember the podcasts app wasting all my cellular allowance because it ignored WiFi only) and other nuances, inconsistencies and defects. Only in iOS 11 have the…

So true. My experience was that upgrading Apple OSes was a safe and reliable experience. I'd almost always upgrade on launch day or the day after. As of the last 2-3 releases that doesn't seem to be the case anymore. Their quality assurance has decreased so much that, for productivity sake, I just can't risk it. After the debacle that was the Sierra upgrade (we had all of our users get locked out of their machines af…

After upgrading to High Sierra and running into issues ranging from freeze ups to terrible bugs in the apps I use for work, I will never upgrade immediately after a launch again.

When I see that a major software release is published for general use I used to assume that it was solid and that the general public was not being used as guinea pigs.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by miles »

egb wrote: post #2

I so wish Apple had not removed the older Sierra installer from the Mac AppStore... I need to update some machines but High Sierra does not seem ready for reliable use yet.

If you still have a copy of "Install macOS Sierra.app" on any of your Macs, you can simply copy that or make a bootable installer from it:

  sudo /Applications/Install\ macOS\ Sierra.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/MyVolume --applicationpath /Applications/Install\ macOS\ Sierra.app
If you can't locate a copy of Sierra, please let me know and I'll mail you a USB installer.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by grandalf »

Since this thread is broadly about Apple losing its edge as a fairly secure-by-default platform:

I installed Windows 10 on a computer and use it from time to time and the built-in anti-virus and malware protection makes me feel more comfortable running unsigned applications on Windows than I feel running them on OSX.

I find myself wishing that Apple would take similar responsibility for security (virus, malware) threats. One possible reason Apple is not doing this is because the next iteration of MacBooks will run iOS and unsigned apps will not be possible without jailbreaking.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by ProAm »

rising-sky wrote: post #206
planetjones wrote: post #50

The lack of attention to detail by Apple recently e.g. code reviews, in house testing is clearly too low. I have seen too many software failures recently from this company. Like photos freezing on my new iMac (before High Sierra), numerous issues with iOS (I remember the podcasts app wasting all my cellular allowance because it ignored WiFi only) and other nuances, inconsistencies and defects. Only in iOS 11 have the…

I totally concur with that last comment. I had to reset my iPhone 7 plus and watch series 3, twice over the weekend to get the Activity app to sync properly. Which is a shame considering Apple's reputation for building "air-tight" software and products and not rushing features to market because they want to get it "right".

> Apple's reputation for building "air-tight" software

Really that was 5+ years ago. Apple is a life style company first these days and a technology company second you can see this by their priorities.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by mi100hael »

pfranz wrote: post #207
mi100hael wrote: post #145

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I have a Dell Precision laptop running Linux at home and a MacBook Pro from work. On a weekly basis, the Mac won't wake from sleep and requires a hard reboot. The Time Machine backups get corrupted at least every other month and require a full backup from scratch. Sometimes the audio just quits working when I wake from sleep. The App Store is some horribly wrapped, unresponsive web app. Disk Utility is useless. Etc,…

It sounds like you have a hardware problem with your Mac. Time Machine and wake from sleep could be signs of bad RAM...maybe the audio problem, too. Or maybe the extra stuff your work installs? In my experience (for all platforms) that software is low-level and of dubious quality. OTOH, as long as your hardware is decently supported, I haven't really had fundamental complaints about desktop Linux in the 10+ years I'v…

The audio issue only happened to me on one copy, but the wake from sleep and TM issues have happened on multiple MacBook Pros, both with & without the work bloatware. I'm inclined to blame those on bugs in macOS.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by derefr »

dilap wrote: post #161
Osmium wrote: post #122

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There have been a few cases like this. Presumably the original was created/maintained by just one person, they move on, and then when the next person comes along they decide it's easier to re-write than modify the old code. But they don't have sufficient time and the new version is inferior to the old. Bear in mind the old version did need to be updated (new CoreStorage features, has to handle Fusion drives, now APFS…

1. dont have the same depth of dev talent they used to 2. mgmt that isnt as sensitive-to and focussed-on quality. (this is 75% speculation on my part and 25% confirmed by conversations with 2 ex-apple engineers.)

I've always thought of Apple as one of those black holes that absorbs devs: people land there, and then—if they can hack the culture—tend to stay for their careers.

Is this not true any more? Where does ex-Apple dev talent tend to go? (Microsoft? Indie app development?)

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