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Given Choice, Patients Will Choose Cannabis Over Prescribed Opioids

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You can only get so high. After a while more cannabis won't have an effect.

Ever tried concentrates? You might go to sleep for a while, but "not have an effect?" Heh.

I've tried moon rocks, edibles, concentrates, vaporizers, bongs, stream-rollers, hash, and anything else you can name. You only get so high.

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With having alot of first hand and 2nd hand knowledge, I am very surprised by questions like these that show how much of the knowledge about this wonder drug have been suppressed and or generally just not known. 1)varies on so many factors to get into. -Tolerance,strength,variety,form, and how it's taken. What you eat before consumption can affect. 2)no. Lookup THC vs CBD, for pain relief it's more CBD which doesn't…

I downvoted you for two reasons. Cannabis is not a wonder drug. It treats a few things effectively, like many other drugs. Just because it has been suppressed doesn't mean you should use hyperbole. Second, naturopaths are quacks. They do not have proper medical training and often recommend nonsense like homeopathy. They are the opposite of what the OP was asking for.

maybe from your experience.

Cannabis has not been fully explored since its supression by pharma/govt. there are many areas which they are discovering it treats effectively, more than a few already known and more being discovered.

i have seen a naturopath who also has a doctorate in science based medicine, and is not some hack pitching homeopathy.

not all are quacks and not all dont have medical training , i downvoted you for this reason, doesnt mean you should use a hyperbole.. :)

who do you recommend to see? you provided no information relevant to what OP was asking.

should they go see a medical doctor who in general (not all) dont believe the effectiveness just due to the stigma of marijuana?

or would you recommend a naturopath who may (not all) who has hands on experience advising and dealing with patients who have tried marijuana to help with various ailments.

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I get kidney stones pretty often (6 times in the last 8 years). I vomit from the pain, convulse on the floor, lose all sense of self as I just struggle to survive the sensation. It is intense. Usually I have to go to the emergency room for IV opioids. Then they give you some to take home after you pass the peak of the pain. Last time it happened to me, I went home at around 6pm after going into the hospital that morn…

I would just like to point out that cannabis is not a cure-all or even effective sometimes.

Here's my anecdotal story: I personally have constant extreme pain (the joys of Ehlers-Danlos) and when I tried cannabis for my pain it not only was entirely ineffective, it greatly amplified my pain. So not only was I stoned, I was also in way more pain than usual. So I had a pretty bad time.

I think issue was that a lot of my pain comes from muscle overuse because when my muscles relax too much my joints stretch or pinch the nerves passing through them (which is super painful). So cannabis most likely made me too relaxed to not hurt myself constantly.

The reason no one in the medicine has even mentioned cannabis to you is because it is a schedule 1 drug. The DEA does not allow doctors to prescribe or administer schedule 1 drugs for any reason. You can read more about their guidelines here https://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/pubs/manuals/pract/pract_...

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I've got serious neck and shoulder pain from wrestling in high school and college. Currently don't have the time to get proper treatment. Doctors have tried to prescribe opioids and even tranquilizers for the pain to help me sleep but I'm terrified, with good cause, of becoming addicted. I took a run of percocet in high school for my wisdom teeth and enjoyed them too much to ever have that be a regular part of my lif…

Someone mentioned physical therapy, which is a good idea. Another one might be going to a chiropractor (if it is an alignment issue). Given your aversion to taking opioids I would suggest trying to determine the exact nature of the pain (muscular, alignment, etc.) and attempt a suitable non-medicinal treatment (PT, chiropractor, yoga, etc.) As someone who occasionally gets mild and (easily treatable) shoulder/neck pa…

Thank you for all the encouragement to go. I assumed it would affect me forever. I'll get on top of this! Thanks!

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As much as I believe that psychedelic experiences should be available to those who seek them, and pro rec mj, LSD can't be legalized. Enough dumbasses out there will drink a vial and then try to drive their car to the moon. Penalties should be much less extreme though. Maybe designated psychedelic theme parks where it's legal and quality controlled with no access to motor vehicles? (with music too?)

If you drank a vial, you'd be curled up on the ground or in bed, not living some scene from The Hangover like the movies portray.

Na I aint no lightweight.

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post #156

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As much as I believe that psychedelic experiences should be available to those who seek them, and pro rec mj, LSD can't be legalized. Enough dumbasses out there will drink a vial and then try to drive their car to the moon. Penalties should be much less extreme though. Maybe designated psychedelic theme parks where it's legal and quality controlled with no access to motor vehicles? (with music too?)

How is that different from drinking a fifth of vodka and doing the same? The difference is that in the years of people drinking, and the years of people dropping LSD, we have good stats on which is deadlier.

Do not disagree necessarily..

Like I said I think it should be readily available to those who seek it out, without the threat of substantial punishment, it would just be a shit show if Johny H.S. Senior is able to pick up a sheet at 7-11.

How many "Johny turned the school cafeteria into an acid test" news stories is this LSD legalization experiment gonna last for? It pains me to have to say that because I'd love to be able to pick some up at 7-11, just not sure if it's the best idea.

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Pain from gout is excruciating. It is incredibly painful, and you can't put pressure on it, you can't even cover it with a light sheet, you can't sleep... and it goes on for days, sometimes weeks. My longest attack was 2 months long. Standard opioids didn't touch. Should have tried MJ instead.

for you or others reading -- you need to find a rheumatologist. go to urgent care if you need to, and get a recommendation. there is absolutely no reason for you to suffer for weeks on end. it's fucking awful. stop doing this to yourself. it's 2017, these problems were solved decades ago. an acute attack can be stopped with prednisone (a steroid) and toridol (a super strong nsaid) these injections are like $20 each w…

Thank you for your comments... I am on meds and have had the prednisone shots and whatnot, still have attacks that last weeks on end. Was told by my doctors that unfortunately it comes with the territory.

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Pain from gout is excruciating. It is incredibly painful, and you can't put pressure on it, you can't even cover it with a light sheet, you can't sleep... and it goes on for days, sometimes weeks. My longest attack was 2 months long. Standard opioids didn't touch. Should have tried MJ instead.

Have you tried Naproxen? Works well for me.

Yes, it only helps partially.
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