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Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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Post by ec109685 »

mbesto wrote: post #118

This is exactly why Slack is not a defensible product. 1) The UI/interaction/UX can (and obviously will) be replicated, which has been slack's biggest value proposition. 2) There's no "stickiness" for companies. None of the data in chat is really a "system of record" and the switching costs are minimal. 3rd party bots/integrations are the only thing that really make it sticky for companies. 3) The IP isn't really all…

Microsoft Office doesn't have a moat but they had better product and engineers than the competition and turned that into phenomenally successful business.

I think you are overly discounting the advantage for Slack having done this for 4 years already.

Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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Post by hisyam »

mingyeow wrote: post #123
Yabood wrote: post #110

We're a team of five people all remote and in different time zones. We use Slack, and its been great, but we also use Office 365. Teams with its wide integration with all the different MS products is really cool. What I see missing here is mobile apps, and 3rd party integration. Once those are available we'll have no reason to pay the extra $300 a year for Slack.

why office 365 vs google docs?

Excel is still superior to Google Sheets.

Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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Post by filereaper »

jlgaddis wrote: post #117
overcast wrote: post #24

WHAT was Slack thinking writing this?! http://www.theverge.com/2016/11/2/13497766/slack-microsoft-t... Is this the worst ad in the history of advertising? HUGE publicity for Microsoft, with a schoolboy level of condescending, passive aggressive nonsense. Not sure what they were thinking with this one, especially with an opening line doing nothing but praising their competitor. The confidence(arrogance) is astounding.

I've got an evil grin on my face just thinking about Microsoft's response to Slack. I hope they respond and I hope they don't let me down -- there's a prime opportunity here.

"Dear Slack, resistance is futile."

Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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Post by gshulegaard »

commandar wrote: post #51

As somebody working in the healthcare industry, this is the killer feature for me: >Q. What level of security and compliance does Microsoft Teams support? >A. Microsoft Teams is expected to be Office 365 Tier C compliant at launch. This broad set of global compliance and data protection requirements includes ISO 27001, ISO 27018, EUMC, SOC 1 Type I & II, SOC 2 Type I and II, HIPAA and FERPA. Microsoft Teams also enfo…

Having worked briefly in the HIPAA compliant EMR sector, I am honestly surprised by this. Last I checked HIPAA rules were quite lackadaisical when it came to securing patient facing web portals. But I am very out of date and had never thought about applying HIPAA compliance to inter-team communications...

Glad you pointed this out! Really makes me look at Teams in a different (decidedly more positive) light.

Not that I saw it negatively...it just seemed kind of neutral, like Yet-Another-Microsoft-Product that is entering last year's exciting new market.

Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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Post by thr0waway1239 »

mynameisvlad wrote: post #168
thr0waway1239 wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? https://hn.algolia.com/?query=windows%2010%20update&sort=byP...

Yes. When the Windows 10 offer expired, there was no incentive left to advertise it. Windows 7 users that want upgrades now have to go to a store and buy said upgrade. But don't worry, you can continue parroting that line for another 20 years like "embrace, extend, extinguish". It's not like people make mistakes and learn from them. That never happens.

I believe the issue we are discussing is customer support. MS used manipulative techniques to supply this supposedly amazing offer. No way to refuse the so-called "offer", which of course leads to repeated nagging to add a ton of impedance to those who would have otherwise resisted upgrading, finally culminating in unexpectedly bricking the computers of some users who were perfectly happy with what they already had paid for.

I had a old Windows 7 laptop which I updated to Windows 10, and promptly the touchpad right click stopped working. I didn't really need that laptop at that point, so I just threw it away and also decided that I am never going to use Windows OS after that point unless forced to for work purposes.

To me, this "offer" takes top spot as the current gold standard for shitty support.

Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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Post by crandycodes »

Yabood wrote: post #110

We're a team of five people all remote and in different time zones. We use Slack, and its been great, but we also use Office 365. Teams with its wide integration with all the different MS products is really cool. What I see missing here is mobile apps, and 3rd party integration. Once those are available we'll have no reason to pay the extra $300 a year for Slack.

FYI - click on a channel's "..." and click on "connectors". Tons of 3rd party integrations + custom webhooks. (Disclosure: I work for MSFT, but on Azure, not on Teams/Office/etc.)

Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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Post by enraged_camel »

ec109685 wrote: post #211
mbesto wrote: post #118

This is exactly why Slack is not a defensible product. 1) The UI/interaction/UX can (and obviously will) be replicated, which has been slack's biggest value proposition. 2) There's no "stickiness" for companies. None of the data in chat is really a "system of record" and the switching costs are minimal. 3rd party bots/integrations are the only thing that really make it sticky for companies. 3) The IP isn't really all…

Microsoft Office doesn't have a moat but they had better product and engineers than the competition and turned that into phenomenally successful business. I think you are overly discounting the advantage for Slack having done this for 4 years already.

>>Microsoft Office doesn't have a moat

You are joking, right? Or do you actually believe that pretty much anyone can trivially develop similar tools that have feature-parity?

Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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Post by enraged_camel »

devopsproject wrote: post #146
mingyeow wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

why office 365 vs google docs?

not op but office365 includes desktop versions of word, excel, outlook, etc and they are faster and have more features.

Not all license types include the desktop apps. Lower-tier licenses are web-only.

Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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Post by badminton1 »

mbesto wrote: post #118

This is exactly why Slack is not a defensible product. 1) The UI/interaction/UX can (and obviously will) be replicated, which has been slack's biggest value proposition. 2) There's no "stickiness" for companies. None of the data in chat is really a "system of record" and the switching costs are minimal. 3rd party bots/integrations are the only thing that really make it sticky for companies. 3) The IP isn't really all…

You forget the massive amount of plugins and conversational bots that you can plug into slack that are ready to use right now.

Re: Microsoft Teams, the new chat-based workspace in Office 365

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Post by ohsimtabem »

commandar wrote: post #51

As somebody working in the healthcare industry, this is the killer feature for me: >Q. What level of security and compliance does Microsoft Teams support? >A. Microsoft Teams is expected to be Office 365 Tier C compliant at launch. This broad set of global compliance and data protection requirements includes ISO 27001, ISO 27018, EUMC, SOC 1 Type I & II, SOC 2 Type I and II, HIPAA and FERPA. Microsoft Teams also enfo…

Since lot of people is talking about HIPPA compliance.

Have you heard about https://teamstitch.com/product/ (nope, not affiliated in any way)

When it came out it was basically a copy cat of Slack, with HIPAA and other security standards compliance. (now they've updated the ui)

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