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Re: Hacker News is a social echo chamber

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Post by pbreit »

wellboy wrote: post #200
DougWebb wrote: post #37

I'm curious how many people who have the ability to upvote or flag stories actually do so. For my part, I'm very conservative: - I never flag stories; I may not find a story interesting, but I don't feel it's appropriate to impose my interests on others or 'police' their discussions. - I rarely upvote stories, mostly because I'm usually browsing stories that are already on the front-page. Occasionally I skim through…

You know what sux, stories critical of HN are getting flagged and pushed off the front page, exactly the flaw that this article points out. This article is at position 58 now with 308 upvotes after being submitted 9 hours ago. There's another link from 9h ago with 48 upvotes and it's at position 36. This article is direct user feedback and points out that moderation is just harmful for what HN stands for, why "making…

The ZenPayroll post disappeared pretty quickly, too.

Re: Hacker News is a social echo chamber

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Post by gfodor »

steven2012 wrote: post #30
gfodor wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Uh no. You can criticize HN while also claiming pg has the right to do what he wants. Oh look, the article does just that: "Hacker News is a privately run site and nobody's under any obligation to change how they choose to run it. But the focus on avoiding conflict to such an extent that controversial stories receive less exposure than ones that fit people's existing beliefs doesn't enhance our community. "

Oh look, I never once said the author wasn't allowed to criticize the way HN was run. I said that if he wants something different, then do it himself instead of trying to hijack HN for his purposes.

I might have missed something (honestly) but where exactly is the author hijacking anything? Are you suggesting that posting meta-discussion about HN on HN itself is hijacking HN? (And it's not your fault if it's upvoted.) If so that seems a bit crazy.

Re: Hacker News is a social echo chamber

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Post by wellboy »

pbreit wrote: post #201
wellboy wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You know what sux, stories critical of HN are getting flagged and pushed off the front page, exactly the flaw that this article points out. This article is at position 58 now with 308 upvotes after being submitted 9 hours ago. There's another link from 9h ago with 48 upvotes and it's at position 36. This article is direct user feedback and points out that moderation is just harmful for what HN stands for, why "making…

The ZenPayroll post disappeared pretty quickly, too.

Hmm, well to make a community-driven website, but actually only with the content that the moderators deem worthy, is a good way to piss off users and to not make it change the world. It makes HN mediocre.

Re: Hacker News is a social echo chamber

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Post by welly »

DougWebb wrote: post #37

I'm curious how many people who have the ability to upvote or flag stories actually do so. For my part, I'm very conservative: - I never flag stories; I may not find a story interesting, but I don't feel it's appropriate to impose my interests on others or 'police' their discussions. - I rarely upvote stories, mostly because I'm usually browsing stories that are already on the front-page. Occasionally I skim through…

Your HN behaviour is pretty much identical to mine. I rarely comment, I do occasionally but generally I skim through comments and upvote occasional comments I find interesting.

Re: Hacker News is a social echo chamber

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Post by barry-cotter »

nyan_sandwich wrote: post #156
MartinCron wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are some topics that show up on HN frequently, but the discussion is incredibly poor every single time. I've given up on upvoting/downvoting any such discussions and simply don't read them anymore. This includes everything on sexism in tech. I don't blame you, but I find it especially sad, because sexism in tech is one area that actually needs more meaningful nuanced discussion. Not to be too elitist, but if we…

>if we can't have this conversation, who can? lesswrong.com is typically able to discuss difficult topics much more rationally than the rest of the internet.

Please don't lower the quality of conversation further. Vladimir Nesov is already gone, we don't need more normal people.

Re: Hacker News is a social echo chamber

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Post by tptacek »

potatolicious wrote: post #71
DougWebb wrote: post #37

I'm curious how many people who have the ability to upvote or flag stories actually do so. For my part, I'm very conservative: - I never flag stories; I may not find a story interesting, but I don't feel it's appropriate to impose my interests on others or 'police' their discussions. - I rarely upvote stories, mostly because I'm usually browsing stories that are already on the front-page. Occasionally I skim through…

- I flag stories only if it seems like the story is abusive, not just off-topic (e.g., overly self-promotional, complete noise, etc). This happens very rarely. - I don't usually upvote stories. I only do so if I have a very immediate "holy shit this is amazing!" reaction to it. - I upvote comments frequently, particularly if it's a good, well-argued point done in good style (i.e., more factual than rhetoric). I downv…

Look at the thread below to see what happens when you simply mention sexism on HN. It's like we're a permanent chapter of /r/MensRights.
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