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Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by DigitalJack »

tlrobinson wrote: post #159
markbao wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a vim user, I feel as if the essence of vim is an extension of my mind . Much like riding a bicycle, I instinctively think "select this line and the four lines below it and copy it" as "V4jy" with little cognitive thought. Kind of cool from a cognitive science standpoint.

Do you think it's possible some people just aren't wired like this? Or am I just not trying hard enough? I've tried to pick up Vim several times and never made it very far. But at least I know "i" and ":wq" now :)

As an avid vim user, I certainly think it might just be a difference in inclinations. Use what works for you. A text editor is not the objective here, building you project is.

If you are burning all your cycles trying to map the natural way your brain wants to operate to the way your text editor operates, what do you have left for the real work?

If you want to learn vim, by all means go ahead. But feel no shame if it just doesn't fit you.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by DigitalJack »

sixothree wrote: post #198
tlrobinson wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think it's possible some people just aren't wired like this? Or am I just not trying hard enough? I've tried to pick up Vim several times and never made it very far. But at least I know "i" and ":wq" now :)

Don't worry. I find vim completely dated, arcane, and esoteric. Sure, it can do almost 25% of the stuff sublime can do but every feature has it's own learning curve. If I want to select four lines of text in any text editor that isn't vim, I just hold down the shift key and use any of the cursor navigation available to me. Not so in vim. Upon leaving vim none of the key bindings are never used in any other program. T…

I can't comment on the 25% claim, but I've used both extensively and found them comparable.

I personally find the navigation of vim so convenient that I use vimperator for Firefox, as well as the built in vim mode of sublime text.

I totally get that vim is a completely unnatural fit for some people. I certainly don't hold that against them, and I hope they don't hold it against me or vim itself.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by DigitalJack »

ripter wrote: post #199
tlrobinson wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think it's possible some people just aren't wired like this? Or am I just not trying hard enough? I've tried to pick up Vim several times and never made it very far. But at least I know "i" and ":wq" now :)

It's just a steep learning curve. Spend a few years using nothing but vim and it becomes natural.

That just seems like a waste of time and energy to me. Text editing should not be getting in the way of your projects.

I say this as someone who uses vim very nearly exclusively.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by DigitalJack »

tumblen wrote: post #186
magicarp wrote: post #171

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I was in your position for about a year until bit the bullet and uninstalled Sublime Text from my machine forced myself to use vim exclusively. It was an arduous and painful 2 weeks, but it got better and paid off in the long run.

Why do you need to uninstall? I use Sumblime text in Vintage (VIM) mode and it's amazing!

I agree. Vintage mode is among the best emulations/mappings of vim that I have used.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by dsego »

liminal wrote: post #157

Glad for the speed improvements but the UI seems to be getting worse. For example, the minimap now only shows your viewport view on hover making it mostly useless as an orientation tool. I emailed the developer about this issue many weeks ago and never received a reply, so I have no idea if he also views this as a problem (not encouraging).

This is just a changed default setting. Add this to the user settings:

"always_show_minimap_viewport": true

This why it is still beta. You should bother to explore the settings sometimes.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by DigitalJack »

levosmetalo wrote: post #187
georgemcbay wrote: post #140

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I'm also a Sublime Text 2 paying customer who doesn't actively recommend the editor, though I find a lot to like about it. For me, the reason is a bit more day-to-day practical in that I find myself increasingly doing development on Linux systems running on ARM chips and Sublime Text has no support for ARM builds. It is something often asked for in the forums and on the userecho site but is always shot down by the de…

If it had something like tramp in Emacs, that wouldn't be an issue. Heck, I sometimes log in to remote VPS where I have an Emacs configured to suit all my needs, open Emacs there and edit file on my local machine using Emacs tramp.

There is an excellent sftp sync plugin for sublime text. It's not free but has a similar nag trial option. I don't have the name or link off hand though.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by discreteevent »

sixothree wrote: post #198
tlrobinson wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think it's possible some people just aren't wired like this? Or am I just not trying hard enough? I've tried to pick up Vim several times and never made it very far. But at least I know "i" and ":wq" now :)

Don't worry. I find vim completely dated, arcane, and esoteric. Sure, it can do almost 25% of the stuff sublime can do but every feature has it's own learning curve. If I want to select four lines of text in any text editor that isn't vim, I just hold down the shift key and use any of the cursor navigation available to me. Not so in vim. Upon leaving vim none of the key bindings are never used in any other program. T…

The other approach is to use autohotkey to make everything work like vim.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by lynndylanhurley »

sixothree wrote: post #198
tlrobinson wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think it's possible some people just aren't wired like this? Or am I just not trying hard enough? I've tried to pick up Vim several times and never made it very far. But at least I know "i" and ":wq" now :)

Don't worry. I find vim completely dated, arcane, and esoteric. Sure, it can do almost 25% of the stuff sublime can do but every feature has it's own learning curve. If I want to select four lines of text in any text editor that isn't vim, I just hold down the shift key and use any of the cursor navigation available to me. Not so in vim. Upon leaving vim none of the key bindings are never used in any other program. T…

The 25% claim sounds a little weird - what are some features that sublime has that vim doesn't have?

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by drewda »

DigitalJack wrote: post #206
levosmetalo wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it had something like tramp in Emacs, that wouldn't be an issue. Heck, I sometimes log in to remote VPS where I have an Emacs configured to suit all my needs, open Emacs there and edit file on my local machine using Emacs tramp.

There is an excellent sftp sync plugin for sublime text. It's not free but has a similar nag trial option. I don't have the name or link off hand though.

Do you mean http://wbond.net/sublime_packages/sftp ?

I hope Will Bond makes some money from that, given all the time (and hosting expenses) he puts in for the indispensable Sublime Package Control: http://wbond.net/sublime_packages/package_control

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by pixeloution »

codegeek wrote: post #197

"PayPal is currently the only way to purchase a license for Sublime Text." Why ? I was really hoping to just use a credit card directly.

You don't actually need a paypal account to pay via paypal; you can use your credit card directly and never make an account.
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