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AWS Bedrock to require sharing data with Anthropic for Mythos and future models
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Re: AWS Bedrock to require sharing data with Anthropic for Mythos and future models
#202The root of the problem is that AI-as-a-service is corked, because companies providing it have a hell of an incentive to use all that data to out-compete their competitors, and they can do so in secret. To say nothing of salivating law-enforcement who really, really wants to tap into it. I'm hoping there will be at some point open-source and affordable hardware that can run competent models.
It's all extremely dystopian and I don't see how things improve. The handful of megacorps that have access to the compute and troves of stolen IP to train their secret models on have no incentive to contribute back. They say their models are too dangerous for the public, so they can nerf the GA versions while allowing only their preferred megacorp or nation state partners access to the real secret good versions. We c…
> They don't do this stuff out of the kindness of their hearts
No, but they do have incentive to continue to release with open weights because doing so directly affects the US based labs that are doing this for profit and power.
What's likely to happen is import controls on software as a form of US protectionism. It will be the encryption battle all over again, but this time about your right to both run AI models locally on your own hardware (that the labs and big tech would love if you could continue to not able to afford or acquire so they can rent it to you), and a ban on the distribution and use of foreign models.
I wouldn't be surprised of Anthropic and OpenAI also successfully lobby for a limit on how big open source models can be in the US as well in the name of "safety."
Make no mistake, they all fully intend to pull the ladder up behind them, and they intend to do it soon.
Re: AWS Bedrock to require sharing data with Anthropic for Mythos and future models
#203One very important point here is that it looks like Anthropic is becoming GDPR controller for all submitted data. So data subjects have Article 15 right to request information about processing and possibly a copy of the data. Latter might be contested under "rights of others", but former is more absolute.
What this means it that if someone makes an Article 15 request, they would be entitled to know if Anthropic holds personal data about them and also from who they received this data at minimum.
If someone wants to do that, I would recommend combining it with Article 18 request to forbid deleting the data for legal claim in case you contest Anthropic's reply. Otherwise they could just delete the data per their retention policy and DPA would find much later that they no longer hold the data.
Re: AWS Bedrock to require sharing data with Anthropic for Mythos and future models
#204Cancel your subscriptions, or you are to blame. Simple. If you aren't voting with your wallet, you can't cry when the world ends.
Sure, but that's the recycling argument all over again, putting the onus on individuals when the real problem are the ultra wealthy, and in this case, the large corporations mandating AI usage and buying from the frontier labs.
Me, or even me + a ton of other individual devs cancelling their personal $100/month Claude plans are a drop in the bucket of the billions of dollars of enterprise revenue they bring in.
To enact change here, the answer is to unionize, and put an AI usage ban into union contracts. Coerce the companies into not buying.
Re: AWS Bedrock to require sharing data with Anthropic for Mythos and future models
#205Earlier quoted context omitted.
Every one of the competitors capable of a similar model have been salivating for a long time at the idea of consensual data sharing. Anthropic just opened the door for everyone to do the same thing without having to deal with being the first to do so. My bet is that OpenAI etc’s next model will have these same requirements. Ever since the Mythos announcement it’s been clear that we’re heading towards a future where S…
This makes these models unusable in the settings where people are actually benefiting from these models being on Bedrock (e.g. they have customer contracts that limit who they can share data with, etc). If the lift from these models is high enough and no alternative springs up, people will find a way to get to yes, but if OpenAI is willing to ship a Fable-class model on Bedrock without this, all the traffic will just…
> This makes these models unusable in the settings where people are actually benefiting from these models being on Bedrock (e.g. they have customer contracts that limit who they can share data with, etc).
Does it, though?
Does Amazon have a clause in their contracts that forbids data sharing with any and all third parties? Is all AWS support and datacenter personnel employed directly by Amazon? Do they seriously have no third-party contractors?
Re: AWS Bedrock to require sharing data with Anthropic for Mythos and future models
#206Wonder why Anthropic wants all those data? Isn't it a good company?
Re: AWS Bedrock to require sharing data with Anthropic for Mythos and future models
#207The root of the problem is that AI-as-a-service is corked, because companies providing it have a hell of an incentive to use all that data to out-compete their competitors, and they can do so in secret. To say nothing of salivating law-enforcement who really, really wants to tap into it. I'm hoping there will be at some point open-source and affordable hardware that can run competent models.
Already happening https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/23/openai-tumber-...
that story remains ridiculous, and the RCMP is trying to pass the buck, when they already knew the issues and had confiscated the guns
... then gave them back, and then tbe shooting happened.
Re: AWS Bedrock to require sharing data with Anthropic for Mythos and future models
#208The root of the problem is that AI-as-a-service is corked, because companies providing it have a hell of an incentive to use all that data to out-compete their competitors, and they can do so in secret. To say nothing of salivating law-enforcement who really, really wants to tap into it. I'm hoping there will be at some point open-source and affordable hardware that can run competent models.
The root of the problem is that ordinary people don't make enough noises for any problems they see in life, so they are essentially cattles. Do you care about cattle's opinions? I guess a few of us do, but most of us don't.
Would humans change their treatment of cattle if the cattle made louder noises? That seems doubtful.
Re: AWS Bedrock to require sharing data with Anthropic for Mythos and future models
#209Earlier quoted context omitted.
> you trust them enough not to log your data prior to this, but not enough to trust their stated limits on how logged data will be used now It doesn't really matter how much you happen trust another party. In the regulatory world it only matters what contracts they will sign that guarantee their compliance. We do have those with AWS, we don't with Anthropic. If Anthropic physically captures the data, they just moved…
It will absolutely cause some non-trivial number of customers to shift their configs away from Anthropic.
You’re underestimating how much companies are willing to bend over backwards if they can “get ahead with a god model” compared to their competitors.
Re: AWS Bedrock to require sharing data with Anthropic for Mythos and future models
#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
This makes these models unusable in the settings where people are actually benefiting from these models being on Bedrock (e.g. they have customer contracts that limit who they can share data with, etc). If the lift from these models is high enough and no alternative springs up, people will find a way to get to yes, but if OpenAI is willing to ship a Fable-class model on Bedrock without this, all the traffic will just…
> This makes these models unusable in the settings where people are actually benefiting from these models being on Bedrock (e.g. they have customer contracts that limit who they can share data with, etc). Does it, though? Does Amazon have a clause in their contracts that forbids data sharing with any and all third parties? Is all AWS support and datacenter personnel employed directly by Amazon? Do they seriously have…
For data on GovCloud and similar deployments, data sharing is indeed restricted and access by AWS support folks is heavily controlled.