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Re: Chrome removes claim of On-device Al not sending data to Google Servers

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It seems to me that adding AI to desktop apps and sending the data back to the mothership for processing is an amazing way to collect data from people who, for the most part, would be completely unaware it's even happening. Heck, most of them think the Internet is Chrome.

"Ladies and Gentlemen, may I present to you the Internet."

https://youtu.be/Vywf48Dhyns?si=uOwUSAr1F_QSShfj&t=67

Re: Chrome removes claim of On-device Al not sending data to Google Servers

#202

It seems to me that adding AI to desktop apps and sending the data back to the mothership for processing is an amazing way to collect data from people who, for the most part, would be completely unaware it's even happening. Heck, most of them think the Internet is Chrome.

I'd argue that even pre-AI the average internet surfer never thinks about all the data the sites they use collect. I'm not even sure if my mom uses any apps that aren't web apps (maybe MS word).

But for it all to go to one place? That's a scary amount of data.

Re: Chrome removes claim of On-device Al not sending data to Google Servers

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post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every single packet of information sent on the internet flows through NSA servers at some point. We've known this since Snowden. When I say the government has this information I do not mean that every single bureaucrat at any level of government can access this, but that the government as a whole has access to the information if they feel its worth using. We have limitations on how the government uses such powers but…

That's defeatist, although certainly what they'd like. The world is not the US. Even if NSA captured and logged all internet traffic, they'd still only get a fraction of the information within without breaking all the encryption. And even if they could break the crypto, the ability would only have any power if/when they acted on it. Which in turns reveals the capability to both normal people and other nation states.…

Ok?

So they use it when they feel like and not willy nilly? That doesnt change my perspective. They still have the ability to do it at will.

Re: Chrome removes claim of On-device Al not sending data to Google Servers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"My belief is the AI business is all about data collection." The "business" of so-called "tech" companies is all about data collection https://www.economist.com/leaders/2017/05/06/the-worlds-most...

If thats the case why dont they just pay me for it directly.

Because the concepts of freedom and security are not universal.

Re: Chrome removes claim of On-device Al not sending data to Google Servers

#206

It seems to me that adding AI to desktop apps and sending the data back to the mothership for processing is an amazing way to collect data from people who, for the most part, would be completely unaware it's even happening. Heck, most of them think the Internet is Chrome.

> Heck, most of them think the Internet is Chrome.

In the end Google has achieved something that Microsoft couldn't with Internet Explorer, and won the Browser Wars.

Google managed to aggressively advertise their browser by optional install "offer" within Windows installers of software. And they were aiming exactly at all those who couldn't tell the difference between the web browsers and who were conditioned by more experienced family members, friends etc. to just blindly click "Next Next, Finish". Thus, that was an easy win.

Being here when we had choice between Gecko, Presto, Trident and later WebKit/Blink makes me sad how easily the IT world allowed this nearly 100% monoculture to happen. There are still other browsers but chances that we return to variety and choice of rendering engines are low.

Re: Chrome removes claim of On-device Al not sending data to Google Servers

#208

It seems to me that adding AI to desktop apps and sending the data back to the mothership for processing is an amazing way to collect data from people who, for the most part, would be completely unaware it's even happening. Heck, most of them think the Internet is Chrome.

I called this out when it was announced on here. Supposedly the team lead replied to my comment saying this wouldn't happen. I rolled my eyes but asked will android be able to use those models for ex filtration. No reply. And apparently the original claim was not true either lol. Maybe I'm misremembering it. Google is awful. My goodness. I hate Android and can't wait to be rid of it. Graphene and it's buddies can't r…

Maybe I'm misremembering it.

What you should've done is saved what they said so you could post it directly as evidence. If they're collecting all the data they can, you should naturally also have the right to do the same! I've noticed they're increasingly memory-holing a lot of things that, somewhat coincidentally, are inconvenient truths.

Re: Chrome removes claim of On-device Al not sending data to Google Servers

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post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They’re all awful. Does anyone believe a single big tech company isn’t harvesting data en masse from everyone in duplicitous manners? Like, the best case scenario is that they don’t just blatantly steal your data and instead use dark patterns or inference to take from you without your knowledge. And then, thanks to the wonderful opinions of the court, the government has full access to said data since you apparently k…

They won't actually show you who said what though. Twitter trialed that feature then they quickly turned it off after everyone realized half of the maga influencers were russians. It also kind of stinks because not every mistake should be immortalized and recorded forever. Blackmail and all that. It kind of ruins the internet in a different way.

influencers were russians

... or just hiding behind a VPN that exits there?

Re: Chrome removes claim of On-device Al not sending data to Google Servers

#210

It seems to me that adding AI to desktop apps and sending the data back to the mothership for processing is an amazing way to collect data from people who, for the most part, would be completely unaware it's even happening. Heck, most of them think the Internet is Chrome.

I called this out when it was announced on here. Supposedly the team lead replied to my comment saying this wouldn't happen. I rolled my eyes but asked will android be able to use those models for ex filtration. No reply. And apparently the original claim was not true either lol. Maybe I'm misremembering it. Google is awful. My goodness. I hate Android and can't wait to be rid of it. Graphene and it's buddies can't r…

GrapheneOS is all of the best parts of Android / AOSP.
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