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Apple has removed most of the towns and villages in Lebanon from Apple maps?

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Re: Apple has removed most of the towns and villages in Lebanon from Apple maps?

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Post by oska »

dang wrote: post #134
nairboon wrote: post #68

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Why do you say unverified? You can activate the hybrid satellite view and look around. There are many towns and cities showing up on satellite view without any label. That's easily verifiable.

What's not easily verifiable is (1) whether they were removed, in the sense that they were there before and now are not; (2) if so, when; and (3) if so, why. The obvious interpretation—that they've been removed for political reasons connected to the current war—would require knowing all 3 of these, and we don't know those things yet.

I don't know if Southern Lebanon town names were removed or never there. In either case it seems quite odd that the southern part of Lebanon has been left so void of labelling.

Perhaps the submission title could be changed just to reflect this seemingly odd paucity of town names in S. Lebanon only on Apple Maps?

Re: Apple has removed most of the towns and villages in Lebanon from Apple maps?

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Post by oompydoompy74 »

aduffy wrote: post #105
redox99 wrote: post #95

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Google maps has done this forever. A good chunk of countries have disputed territories, and never in human history there has been a "universal" map that everybody agrees on.

Sure, but I'm in the US, which is not a party to the conflict between Israel and Lebanon. To my knowledge the US continues to recognize Lebanon as a sovereign country.

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Re: Apple has removed most of the towns and villages in Lebanon from Apple maps?

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Post by jasomill »

dlubarov wrote: post #188
megous wrote: post #185

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Ok, compare: Hezbollah attacks against Israel since Israel started a war against Iran: 2 dead civilians Israel attacks against Lebanon: 2000 dead civilians Similar ratio of children killed in Gaza where it's 1:500. There's nothing comparable about what one side does to the other in this conflict.

Wars aren't supposed to be even. By this logic, the Nazis were the victims of WWII, and the Coalition was extremely evil in the Gulf War. And if Israel wants to be "better", it should just disable its air defenses to let Hezbollah "catch up". If we're interested in an actual end to the violence, the focus should be on enforcing UNSC 1701. It's not like Israel can just ignore attacks against it.

Germany lost fewer civilians than Poland or the Soviet Union, so not really victims by that logic.

And while it's true that German civilian casualties were a couple orders of magnitude higher than American civilian casualties, the war wasn't fought in the US, so it's not really a fair comparison.

While not directly relevant to the Israel/Lebanon conflict, it's probably also worth drawing a distinction between casualties of war and state-sanctioned killing outside the scope of combat.

Germany killed six million Jews in the Holocaust.

The Allies tried and executed ten high-ranking Nazi officials, including six civilians.

By that measure, the ratio of civilian killings is at least a million to one.

Re: Apple has removed most of the towns and villages in Lebanon from Apple maps?

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Post by nielsbot »

flyinglizard wrote: post #170
nielsbot wrote: post #157

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Israel and the US are the number one terrorists on the planet. Israel started this fight and continues to fan the flames of war in the region. Israel instead should be a democracy with equal rights for all subject to its rule instead of an oppressive, expansionist, Jewish-supremacist state. Israel’s existence by violence is the source of the problem. Israel’s dismantlement is the answer. So, which reply will you go w…

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Interesting you assumed violent destruction! I don’t suppose you’re Israeli? Also curious that Israel hasn’t yet “won” even when not being attacked.

I’m talking about a (relatively) peaceful process with reparations, right of return, and international policing. Destroying Israel through violence doesn’t move us forward.

Re: Apple has removed most of the towns and villages in Lebanon from Apple maps?

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Post by robertoandred »

bijowo1676 wrote: post #193
robertoandred wrote: post #133

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Since when has war not been awful? I don’t remember anyone complaining when Hezbollah attacks Israel though.

Hezbollah attacks invading tanks and soldiers. israel drops bombs on children, women, elderly, mostly civilians. one is a justified defense, another is a war crime and ethnic cleansing

Hezbollah attacks nursing homes and football games. How is that justified?

Re: Apple has removed most of the towns and villages in Lebanon from Apple maps?

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Post by karim79 »

elzbardico wrote: post #181
cineticdaffodil wrote: post #175

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Like lebanon was dismantled (it was a christian nation in the 1960s) solved all its problems? Giving in to the islamo supremacists just migrates the problem. If israel ends you will have dhjihad in cyprus, greek, al andaluz and africa. They dont give a fuck about that worthless strip of dessert beach, except for the fact that unsupressed dhimi thrive in it.

What the fuck is a islamo supremacist? This is a non-sequitor invented by low brow fox news pundits that makes no fucking sense.

There is no such thing. I'll accept that Iran's model is a bit weird but there's definitely no supremacy nor expansionism going on in the name of some book or some psychopath's mind (like Netanyahu)

Re: Apple has removed most of the towns and villages in Lebanon from Apple maps?

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Post by fakedang »

flyinglizard wrote: post #153
mikert89 wrote: post #21

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Israel is done being on the receiving end of the Iranian octopus. No more Iranian missiles, rockets, drones, or Iranian funded and directed Islamist terrorists on its borders. Only Syria is an exception: there, it was internal Druze pressure on the Israeli government to act to protect their brothers in Syria.

Israel getting fucked by Iranian tentacles is the last thing we all needed to imagine, thank you.

Starring Gal Gadot and Mojtaba's octopus.

Re: Apple has removed most of the towns and villages in Lebanon from Apple maps?

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Post by karim79 »

Netanyahu threw a temper tantrum on Wednesday (8th of April) and who suffered? Lebanese civilians that's who. The man (if you can call him that) is running on fumes at the moment. In the near future he'll wish he never left his original profession as a furniture salesman.

Re: Apple has removed most of the towns and villages in Lebanon from Apple maps?

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Post by dlubarov »

jasomill wrote: post #203
dlubarov wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wars aren't supposed to be even. By this logic, the Nazis were the victims of WWII, and the Coalition was extremely evil in the Gulf War. And if Israel wants to be "better", it should just disable its air defenses to let Hezbollah "catch up". If we're interested in an actual end to the violence, the focus should be on enforcing UNSC 1701. It's not like Israel can just ignore attacks against it.

Germany lost fewer civilians than Poland or the Soviet Union, so not really victims by that logic. And while it's true that German civilian casualties were a couple orders of magnitude higher than American civilian casualties, the war wasn't fought in the US, so it's not really a fair comparison. While not directly relevant to the Israel/Lebanon conflict, it's probably also worth drawing a distinction between casualt…

> the war wasn't fought in the US, so it's not really a fair comparison

What's unfair about it? In both cases, one side suffered less civilian harm because there wasn't much fighting in its own territory.

I think the point stands that "Israel must be bad because it only lost 2 civilians" makes as little sense as "the Nazis must be good because they lost a lot more civilians than Western allies".

If a framework for trying to judge morality penalizes states for effectively protecting their own civilian population, then it's a very bad framework.

Re: Apple has removed most of the towns and villages in Lebanon from Apple maps?

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Post by phs318u »

flyinglizard wrote: post #196
karim79 wrote: post #195

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The only ethno-supremacists are the Israelis and the whole world is watching the Greater Israel Project unfold before their very eyes. It's concerning and probably unsustainable.

I don’t think Israelis have heard of the “Greater Israel Project”. Sounds like scaremongering designed to defend the indefensible (Hezbollah, Hamas, Iran, etc)

Tell me you know nothing of the regional history without telling me you know nothing of the regional history. Search “eretz yisrael”
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