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Apple has removed most of the towns and villages in Lebanon from Apple maps?

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Re: Apple has removed most of the towns and villages in Lebanon from Apple maps?

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Post by iugtmkbdfil834 »

jampekka wrote: post #89
dryarzeg wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This saddens me as well, because that's the type of thing that happens every day where I live, but... > I don’t understand why it is allowed to continue. The answer is even sadder. It's even worse. And it is as follows: because there's not enough people who are taking action, and from those taking action there's not enough people in power to change something significantly. At least that's how I see it. And... I can't…

There's also a huge cost for taking action about this especially in the US. You can easily get thrown out of school, have your career destroyed or be deported.

This. There are entire groups dedicated to rooting out any sign of deviation from per-authorized storyline and verbiage. It is particularly striking given that US considers itself 'free speech' bastion.

Re: Apple has removed most of the towns and villages in Lebanon from Apple maps?

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Post by dang »

nairboon wrote: post #68
_2d30 wrote: post #16

Currently 50 points and is just a link to Apple Maps with an unverified claim. EDIT: I'm at -2 for stating a fact.

Why do you say unverified? You can activate the hybrid satellite view and look around. There are many towns and cities showing up on satellite view without any label. That's easily verifiable.

What's not easily verifiable is (1) whether they were removed, in the sense that they were there before and now are not; (2) if so, when; and (3) if so, why.

The obvious interpretation—that they've been removed for political reasons connected to the current war—would require knowing all 3 of these, and we don't know those things yet.

Re: Apple has removed most of the towns and villages in Lebanon from Apple maps?

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Post by jazzyjackson »

Chance-Device wrote: post #70
dryarzeg wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This saddens me as well, because that's the type of thing that happens every day where I live, but... > I don’t understand why it is allowed to continue. The answer is even sadder. It's even worse. And it is as follows: because there's not enough people who are taking action, and from those taking action there's not enough people in power to change something significantly. At least that's how I see it. And... I can't…

This goes beyond direct action by individuals, it’s completely obvious what’s happening and it happens because the US political system has been captured.

gross

Re: Apple has removed most of the towns and villages in Lebanon from Apple maps?

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Post by jampekka »

dvfjsdhgfv wrote: post #100
jampekka wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's also a huge cost for taking action about this especially in the US. You can easily get thrown out of school, have your career destroyed or be deported.

This is mostly a US thing. Netanyahu and Putin are two war criminals according to International Court of Justice. Although Trump threatened the ICJ, this doesn't change that basic fact.

Already in 2002 US passed the "American Service-Members' Protection Act" that allows USA to deploy military to prevent U.S. or allied officials and military personnel from being prosecuted or detained by the ICC.

It passed via bypartisan vote well in time before US launched the illegal invasion of Iraq in which it committed various war crimes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Service-Members%27_Pr...

Re: Apple has removed most of the towns and villages in Lebanon from Apple maps?

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Post by mirzap »

threethirtytwo wrote: post #22
mirzap wrote: post #14

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Those towns and villages will be rebuilt after the war. This is not excuse for what Apple did, it is justification for ethnic cleansing and occupation. Same as with Gaza City. It existed for 3500 years, it will be rebuilt and it will outlive the US/Israel for sure.

How is removing a city from a map a some sort of sign that apple did it for malicious reasons?

Given the context, how it is not? These are not some random place on the map that have disappeared.

Re: Apple has removed most of the towns and villages in Lebanon from Apple maps?

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Post by Vosporos »

robertoandred wrote: post #133
samaltmanfried wrote: post #120

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Since when has war not been awful? I don’t remember anyone complaining when Hezbollah attacks Israel though.

You mean to tell us you were living under a rock when there was an international outcry agaist Hezbollah attacking Israel?

Re: Apple has removed most of the towns and villages in Lebanon from Apple maps?

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Post by pixl97 »

stri8ted wrote: post #36
johndevor wrote: post #10

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Entire segments of the podcast sphere are making their money talking about these so-called unspeakable subjects. Why don't you share what you really think.

I mean, your right, unless you actually work for a government or state and then you cannot.

https://gov.texas.gov/news/post/anti-israel-policies-are-ant...

Re: Apple has removed most of the towns and villages in Lebanon from Apple maps?

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Post by crazygringo »

Multiple commenters here are asking if the towns and villages were ever included in Apple maps in the first place, and some people are saying we should obviously assume they were.

However, a quick search reveals at least a few people claiming that Apple Maps has always been empty for Lebanon outside of major cities (and at least one commenter says they are Lebanese):

https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/1sjmrol/comment/oft1...

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/1sjoxqo/...

https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/1sjo66s/apple_maps...

https://www.reddit.com/r/lebanon/comments/1sjou17/apple_maps...

I don't know how trustworthy these comments are, but I don't see anyone contradicting them.

So it's definitely not clear this has anything to do with the current war.

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