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Study finds no evidence cannabis helps anxiety, depression, or PTSD

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Re: Study finds no evidence cannabis helps anxiety, depression, or PTSD

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Post by 01100011 »

mountainriver wrote: post #173
01100011 wrote: post #171

As a middle aged guy who has used pot on and off for decades and no longer really enjoys the high, I'll say weed is good for two things: Old man joint pains. Not headaches, broken bones, etc. But it nearly erases achy joint pain for me. Being angry. I am much less angry in general when I'm smoking a bit every couple of days. That said, when I take a break I feel like my testosterone goes through the roof. I get more…

Weed is great for my anger and sleep. I’ve never found as good of a sleep medicine for someone who wakes up too early. I also had debilitating anger in my teens and weed really helped calm that down. I’ve been off it for years at a time and I still can’t get past my anger without it. That said my memory is shit

It has at times worked well for sleep. One thing I've noticed though is that nothing works consistently for me. While weed and/or melatonin helps me get good sleep, both can leave me groggy/hungover during the day. What's weird is that I don't mean it varies night-to-night, but like for a period of, say, 9 months I'll sleep better on melatonin then it starts to leave me hungover so I'll switch it up and try weed and maybe it works fine for a few months then I get daytime sleepy/sluggish.

Recently I just quit everything yet again and now I sleep well for 6.5 hours, wake up refreshed, and have a lot more alertness and motivation during the day. My past experience says this will last for a while until I yet again find I need weed or melatonin to get more than 4 hours. I don't get it.. probably other factors in my life affecting my sleep.

Re: Study finds no evidence cannabis helps anxiety, depression, or PTSD

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Post by vovavili »

zozbot234 wrote: post #141
acuozzo wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How do amphetamines treat the source of ADHD? By giving a patient the ability & skills to establish a less dopamine-seeking lifestyle while temporarily relieving them of the deficit. Its use is supposed to be coupled with therapy and/or coaching (e.g. https://www.thriveemerge.com ) to ensure that the patient isn't just using it as a lifelong crutch. That's how it's supposed to be done. This approach is more effecti…

Why do you need amphetamines to do this? Why not a legal stimulant? Even something as trivial as coffee can be effective if you take it strategically, i.e. stay off of it completely until the rare times when you need the turbo boost.

Yeah, that's what I did. Back before I started ADHD treatment I was averaging about 12-14 cups of coffee a day, and that's before chocolate. That was the only thing that ever calmed me down. My heart pain eventually got so bad that I had to switch.

Re: Study finds no evidence cannabis helps anxiety, depression, or PTSD

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Post by andoando »

cyberax wrote: post #149
sillywabbit wrote: post #73

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Meth causes brain damage. Dex doesn't.

Meth is also used as an ADHD treatment. I think the reason is just the dosages that are used by addicts compared to people who just need the ADHD treatment. A typical legitimate therapeutic methamphetamine dose is around ~20mg (up to maybe 60mg a day). A typical dose used by addicts is around 1 gram. And it's usually smoked, resulting in immediate bioavailability.

Pretty sure a gram of pure meth or even adderall would kill you

Re: Study finds no evidence cannabis helps anxiety, depression, or PTSD

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Post by Gud »

rurban wrote: post #204

Please, everybody knows this already. It only helps against pain. It's structurally equivalent to one part of chemotherapy.

Who is this “everyone”? I smoke weed because it helps with my anxiety. Is it a perfect “treatment”? lol

It gives me some respite, that’s it.

Re: Study finds no evidence cannabis helps anxiety, depression, or PTSD

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Post by rurban »

Gud wrote: post #205
rurban wrote: post #204

Please, everybody knows this already. It only helps against pain. It's structurally equivalent to one part of chemotherapy.

Who is this “everyone”? I smoke weed because it helps with my anxiety. Is it a perfect “treatment”? lol It gives me some respite, that’s it.

Every professional psychiatrist and doctor

Re: Study finds no evidence cannabis helps anxiety, depression, or PTSD

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Post by cyberax »

andoando wrote: post #203
cyberax wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meth is also used as an ADHD treatment. I think the reason is just the dosages that are used by addicts compared to people who just need the ADHD treatment. A typical legitimate therapeutic methamphetamine dose is around ~20mg (up to maybe 60mg a day). A typical dose used by addicts is around 1 gram. And it's usually smoked, resulting in immediate bioavailability.

Pretty sure a gram of pure meth or even adderall would kill you

I should have clarified that it's a daily dose: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2025.05.09.25327334v...

Not that it matters that much. It's no wonder that it fries your brain when you're using 25 _times_ the normal therapeutic dose.

Re: Study finds no evidence cannabis helps anxiety, depression, or PTSD

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Post by tsoukase »

Cannabis had never an official indication for any psychiatric disease. At least in my country medical cannabis is prescribed only for chronic pain. Irrelevant fact is that 95% of people take it just to get high. The mechanism of action suggests its effects. There are enough other substances for this purpose.

Re: Study finds no evidence cannabis helps anxiety, depression, or PTSD

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Post by tsoukase »

lokar wrote: post #22
erelong wrote: post #5

Still ok with it being legal but yeah that doesn't mean it's beneficial

Yep. Of course alcohol is depressive.

Of course it's not. There is no direct relation. Alcohol is a solvent for nerves and causes chemical damage. Depending on the state of the brain, the effects follow.
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