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1Password pricing increasing up to 33% in March

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Re: 1Password pricing increasing up to 33% in March

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Post by gaws »

wps wrote: post #106

A commenter here recently just asked me if I have considered BitWarden due to my gripes with KeePass. KeePass cannot rent-seek off my passwords. You can of course host BitWarden, but the official software can always get worse (see Minio). Thankfully we have community run versions of the BitWarden server (VaultWarden), whereas 1password customers are left to dry. There just isn't any money in personal password manager…

> restricting features like TOTP (BitWarden free tier) rarely entices the average person to get a paid plan.

TOTP on Bitwarden is $10 a year.

Re: 1Password pricing increasing up to 33% in March

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Post by gaws »

barumrho wrote: post #10

Anyone have suggestions for a good alternative? I've been using 1Password (family version to share some subset within the family) for more than 10 years now, but I have to say the user experience has degraded quite a bit. Anyone have a better overall alternative? (Doesn't necessarily have to be cheaper.)

Bitwarden. You can host a free instance with Vaultwarden.

Re: 1Password pricing increasing up to 33% in March

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Post by fuckinpuppers »

“AI-powered item naming” is confusing to me. Do we need AI for that? It’s the site name, it’s worked fine for years.

Anything else seems self explanatory and a single thing the user needs to decide (title for a secure note, things like that)

It’s amazing how things are more efficient but at the same time more expensive because enshittification and capitalism.

This is a pretty big change percentage wise. Instead of the simple $1/month style bump like Spotify or all the other services.

If I recall correctly 1P used to be a one-time purchase then it wound up becoming a subscription. Unless they’re losing money as a company I don’t see a reason for this much increase. There isn’t a huge demand for a lot more features, their cloud bills for their services for sync and stuff should be benefitting from efficiencies…

This concerns me because this feels like the writing on the wall for the application. It’s going to become even more complex, bogged down and expensive, when it was working so well without all of that for so long.

I still have issues on my iPhone with the extension enabled. It makes safari reload pages and crash oddly. Not sure why, just makes it unstable for some reason, and has for easily a year if not a couple. I’ve just dealt with the headache. I’ve got no way to reproduce it in a meaningful enough way, but disabling that makes safari behave normally. That’s how I isolated it.

Re: 1Password pricing increasing up to 33% in March

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Post by fuckinpuppers »

fuckinpuppers wrote: post #204

“AI-powered item naming” is confusing to me. Do we need AI for that? It’s the site name, it’s worked fine for years. Anything else seems self explanatory and a single thing the user needs to decide (title for a secure note, things like that) It’s amazing how things are more efficient but at the same time more expensive because enshittification and capitalism. This is a pretty big change percentage wise. Instead of th…

Also many services, like Backblaze, usually give a heads up on new pricing and give you an opportunity to renew at the same price one last time. That was a further disappointment here too.

Re: 1Password pricing increasing up to 33% in March

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Post by commandersaki »

Raed667 wrote: post #27

There is no reason for this increase except the fact that they know people are too lazy to migrate away. Most of the listed features don't make any sense as core value propositions (wtf is AI-powered item naming)

Migrate to what exactly? And what happens when the thing you migrate to also increase prices?

Re: 1Password pricing increasing up to 33% in March

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Post by commandersaki »

Price increases are always annoying, but I will stay the course.

I don't see myself switching to free competitors like Apple Passwords or Google (doesn't do E2EE). While I am pretty much in the Apple Ecosystem, my family members who use 1P are not, you won't get the same support, it doesn't autofill entries with custom fields, you need to use separate apps to store notes and documents/images, etc. It is just a barren password manager that Apple provides for free and doesn't get the same love as 1P does.

As for competitor cloud based password managers, most of them just don't have a tight security model compared to 1P, and I'm including some of the newer entrants like Proton Pass. 1P made a really smart decision of having a separate password and secret key and using a PAKE to authenticate. I don't think anything has come close except maybe Enpass with its notion of a keyfile. For me, the security story is of utmost importance. Also a lot of the status quo can't seem to get the basics of encryption right, a few still supporting non-authenticated encryption, bleh.

As for Keepass or local (FOSS) password managers, I would rather just write in an encrypted plain text file instead and store everything there. I don't need to be forced into using a database for that.

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