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Due to lack of memory leaks which will stop increasing RAM prices?
The efficiency... https://users.rust-lang.org/t/energy-consumption-in-programm...
Wow. That sucks. hcloud was great for ages and highly competitively priced. Vultr may be a good alternative. If you want to search VPS prices across the 6 major clouds (gcloud, aws-cli, hcloud, az, doctl, and vultr-cli) I made a wrapper TUI that lets you search, sort, and rent VPS. See it here: https://tui.bluedot.ink
I would be very surprised if all hosting providers didn’t increase their prices eventually.
If a provider has higher margins, they may choose to eat some of the cost. But I would not expect that to be the case across the board
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> It seems we will run out of hardware by March? What happens when an unstoppable force (building everything in Electron because hardware is cheap) meets an immovable object (oh no hardware is expensive now)?
consumer RAM is not what's creating shortage. Data centers doesn't run electron to train the model or for inference
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But they cant refresh hardware already sold to customers can they? So increasing prices on existing cutomer hardware is what, subsidising hardware refreshes elsewhere in the datacenter?
Often they do not actually sell you hardware servers, but VMs running on them, with designated properties.
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That Trump makes us very motivated to stop relying on American tech.
This doesn't solve the issue that globalism caused. Europe doesn't make DRAM nor has the know-how to quickly bring factories online which usually take 10+ years. We are tied to American economy and if AI companies start driving prices up not only DRAM but basically everything will become more expensive.
E.g., if I’m running a business in the US and I don’t kiss Trump’s ring (and pay bribes), if he becomes dictator for life in 2028, all bets are off for my business.
Both the EU and USA import the majority of their computer equipment, and the USA is placing heavy and unpredictable tariffs on those goods. It’s hard to argue that a business should bet that data centers will be cheaper in the US than in the EU if Trump is the last democratically elected president.
The most stable places to do business in 2026 are probably the EU and China.
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Low is better than nothing.
Low yields means their production can cost more than they sell it for, which is not sustainable. They have to have yields good enough that they can make money, otherwise the government is just subsidizing a give away, which is fine if they don’t export them but wouldn’t make sense if they do.
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> It seems we will run out of hardware by March? What happens when an unstoppable force (building everything in Electron because hardware is cheap) meets an immovable object (oh no hardware is expensive now)?
consumer RAM is not what's creating shortage. Data centers doesn't run electron to train the model or for inference
So, getting systems with higher RAM capacity is getting harder (from laptops to smartphones). So, for a couple of years, we need to stop using Electron so much and use what we have efficiently.
Data centers, esp. AI hyperscalers do not care about efficiency for now, because they can suffocate consumer-grade part of the hardware marketplace and get anything and everything they want. When their bubble pops, or the whole capacity ends, they need to learn to be efficient, too.
For reference, a well-optimized cluster runs at ~90% efficiency even though they have thousands of users. AI hyperscalers are not there. Maybe 60% efficient, at most. They waste a lot of resources to keep their momentum.
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> it can stay irrational for long enough to destroy everything we know in tech What does this even mean? I know people on the internet sometimes exaggerate, but I cannot even begin to find a more charitable meaning with this, what exactly will be "destroyed" in "tech" because of prices going up for a year or two?
Here's an easy experiment to conduct: look around the room at your home and count all the devices that have a CPU, RAM, SSD or HDD. Then take a look at your bank statement to see what are the services you pay for monthly that also require the same hardware. Now, imagine that these devices or services can no longer procure RAM, SSD or HDD. There's no more available supply for these components, because this is what's h…
Why would I imagine something so far out from what will realistically happen?
Again, a lot of doom and gloom over very unrealistic scenarios. Where are you even getting this from, YouTube channels?
Of course if there is no RAM or flash-storage at all available, eventually hardware will be unfeasible. But when we've experienced these sort of things before, it eventually restores to "normal" prices, and there absolutely nothing pointing to what we're experiencing now to get even worse, if anything it's already stabilized.