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Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

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Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

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And lose every user in the process

Is there any data on what kind of hits to enrollment were taken by facebook, gmail etc when they added requirements like a phone #? Maybe it's buried in their sec filings. Anyway, this "cat and mouse" game is probably irrelevant. They're not looking for and don't need a perfect system. Bc 99% of the public couldn't care less about handing over their information.

Google does not require a phone number. They may ask for one and tell you it's for your own good, but you can skip the request.

Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

#203

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In functioning states, the ID contains a chip with a private key that can be used to sign a message, and ID verification would not be an image of the ID card, but rather holding your phone's NFC reader to the card and signing a message from the site. In Japan, there are already multiple apps which use something like this to verify user's age via the "my number card" + the smartphone's NFC reader. It's more or less im…

> In Japan, there are already multiple apps which use something like this to verify user's age via the "my number card" + the smartphone's NFC reader. Does this also leak your identity to the app?

There is not a way to share just your date of birth. After providing your PIN it can read more than just your date of birth.

Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

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The real and robust method will be generating artificial video input instead of the real webcam. I really don’t think any platform will be able to counter this. If they start requiring to use a phone with harder to spoof camera input, you will simply be able to put the camera in front of a high resolution screen. The cat and mouse game will not last long.

> I really don’t think any platform will be able to counter this. Do platforms want to counter it? Seems to me with an unreliable video selfie age verification: * Reasonable people with common sense don't need to upload scans of their driving licenses and passports * The platform gets to retain users without too much hassle * Porn site users are forced to create accounts; this enables tracking, boosting ad revenue an…

It depends. If the law says "you must perform such-and-such steps to verify age" then no, they don't care if you can counter it. If the law says "you must use an approach that is at least x% effective" then yes they do care if enough people counter it.

We already had a half-assed solution, where websites would require you to press the button that says "I am over 18". Clearly somebody decided that wasn't good enough. That person is not going to stop until good enough is achieved.

Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

#205

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And lose every user in the process

I think you massively overestimate how many people actually care. My guess is that 95% or more of all Discord users do not care and simply upload their selfie or ID card and be done with it. I know I will (although they did say that they expect 80%+ to not require verification since they can somehow infer their age from other parameters)

Those 5% are the unusual sorts that separate Discord from Facebook.

Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

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They can't feasibly do this in the US since many people don't have drivers licenses or passports.

wat. the majority of Americans have a DL, ID, or Passport. What a silly thing to say. For DL alone: >Data indicates that approximately 84% to 91% of all Americans hold a driver's license, with roughly 237.7 million licensed drivers in the U.S. as of 2023. Add in an ID and Passport and we are likely closer to 99%

Yep. You basically cannot function in legal society without an ID. If you are an adult and don't have ID you are intentionally trying to live a cloaked life and it won't be very easy.

Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

#209
post #4

The real and robust method will be generating artificial video input instead of the real webcam. I really don’t think any platform will be able to counter this. If they start requiring to use a phone with harder to spoof camera input, you will simply be able to put the camera in front of a high resolution screen. The cat and mouse game will not last long.

> I really don’t think any platform will be able to counter this. Do platforms want to counter it? Seems to me with an unreliable video selfie age verification: * Reasonable people with common sense don't need to upload scans of their driving licenses and passports * The platform gets to retain users without too much hassle * Porn site users are forced to create accounts; this enables tracking, boosting ad revenue an…

If we normalize this shit everyone will lose.

> Reasonable people with common sense don't need to upload scans of their driving licenses and passports

Cue random bans.

> People who claimed age checks wouldn't invade people's privacy don't get proven wrong

And? Is that supposed to change anything?

Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

#210

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The system doesn’t have to be bulletproof. It just has to be better than the free for all it is today.

Better?..

Yes, there are good use cases for an anonymous age gate. So making one would be better than today's situation.
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