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Luce: First Electric Ferrari

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Re: Luce: First Electric Ferrari

#201

Does this car also come with an exterior? I didn't see any.

> Does this car also come with an exterior?

technically no, since it doesn't come at all yet. It has yet to be launched. But the exterior is likely final or close to it by now.

Dripfeeding details in advance is a publicity move. It makes people hungry to see more. Expect to see it some time before launch in 2026.

Re: Luce: First Electric Ferrari

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I thought I was going to look at a car when I clicked that link. I scrolled the last 80% of the way out of morbid curiosity. This secondary quest was not disappointing: no car photos. So weird. Perhaps this is a complaint about the title. But since it's all about the interface, I must say, the idea of a sports car with a touch screen is still rather terrifying.

All the necessary controls are fortunately physical in the Ferrari.

This is way better than what VW and other manufacturers have been doing in the last 5 years. At least VW is going back to physical controls as customers weren't satisfied with the capacitive buttons and hidden menus for essential functions.

Re: Luce: First Electric Ferrari

#203

In case anyone was wondering what the Apple Car would have looked like inside, it would have been roughly this. As an Apple Car™ it makes sense, but as a Ferrari it's incredibly soulless and oversimplified. This Ive design aesthetic (Dieter Rams' aesthetic really) is fine on consumer electronics where you want the device to disappear and give way to the display, but on something as emotional as a vehicle (Ferrari esp…

EVs have a weight issue that fundamentally constrains their overall design. It is really a tough engineering problem to try to shave weight off of everything, because you are starting out with a 700kg battery replacing a 400kg engine + transmission, so you are ~300kg in the hole, and need to remove 300 kg from the rest of the car. That's why they do crazy stuff like use the battery as part of the structural frame, to…

I think you are wrong on the "weight issue" regarding EV. ICE cars have a weight issue as they consume more gas depending on the weight, which is the case to a much lesser extent in BEV. At high speed, aerodynamics become the main factor reducing range. With urban stop and go traffic, regenerative braking lowers the weight's impact massively. BMW's i3 was constructed with the same mistake: let’s reduce weight to gain range, which didn’t pay off. It added to the cost due to expensive composite materials, lesser to the range. Manufacturers learned from BMW's mistake and build the body with conventional metal sheets. Nevertheless reducing weight has its advantages: using less material saves expenses and helps driving dynamics. Range is a minor factor.

Re: Luce: First Electric Ferrari

#205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It will have simulated gear changes if that helps at all...

Really? Simulating a transmission has been tried a few times over the last decade, but it's flopped repeatedly as just silly. It's not likely to impress Ferrari buyers. The only successful vehicle which has that is a driver-training car built in China. It's electric, but has a clutch pedal and shifter which are inputs to the software. You can even "stall the engine".[1] [1] https://www.jalopnik.com/this-chinese-elect…

Hyundai Ioniq 5 N nailed it perfectly.

I think by simulating a transmission you mean those internal combustion engined cars with CVT transmissions. Those are terrible yes.

Re: Luce: First Electric Ferrari

#208

> First Electric Ferrari This is big. Ferrari, as a brand, is the top cult of internal combustion engine. For them to release an EV is like Apple releasing an Windows computer or Android phone. Soon, the last holdout of big oil will be the American government.

They've been doing hybrids for a while now. Not to mention the F1 and LeMans prototype cars. This car is more like the iPhone SE or 16/17e line of phones.

Re: Luce: First Electric Ferrari

#210
What a joke of a car, the "screens" are contagious. Peak design stupidity arrived at Ferarri, does it have the sliding on the screen gear stick too? Retractable door handles? I guess the price of old cars will grow faster than they used it.
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