The party of small government killing a new, billion dollar industry because Mitch McConnell's state beverage is seeing declining sales.
It won't take effect for a year. Plenty of time to stock up.
Hemp ban hidden inside government shutdown bill
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Re: Hemp ban hidden inside government shutdown bill
#202Earlier quoted context omitted.
I thought that was because of the tit-for-tat with Canada. I'd think a joint and a glass of bourbon would go hand-in-hand. Personally, I don't drink or smoke, but I think the "war on drugs" has been a miserable failure that has been, for the most part, a footgun.
> I'd think a joint and a glass of bourbon would go hand-in-hand. They don't. Drunkenness just kind of nullifies pot. I might have a beer when I'm stoned, but only a very tasty one, and only one. I think that extremely light pot smoking is killing alcohol sales. The tiniest bit of pot is just as pleasing as a mild alcohol buzz, and an alcohol buzz kills the effect of pot. I know I got in the habit for a while of smok…
There are terms for the combined effects of drinking alcohol and smoking weed. Cross-faded in English, pachipedo in Spanish. I find these terms and the effects they refer to enjoyable.
Re: Hemp ban hidden inside government shutdown bill
#203Earlier quoted context omitted.
I thought that was because of the tit-for-tat with Canada. I'd think a joint and a glass of bourbon would go hand-in-hand. Personally, I don't drink or smoke, but I think the "war on drugs" has been a miserable failure that has been, for the most part, a footgun.
> the "war on drugs" has been a miserable failure that has been, for the most part, a footgun. It has accomplished everything its proponents hoped for and much more. "You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin. And then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt th…
Typical war on the 'others' as championed by the Conservative party members: terrorists, Communists, immigrants, 'drug' users, hippies, ANTIFA, liberals, etc, etc, etc.
Re: Hemp ban hidden inside government shutdown bill
#204Earlier quoted context omitted.
I thought that was because of the tit-for-tat with Canada. I'd think a joint and a glass of bourbon would go hand-in-hand. Personally, I don't drink or smoke, but I think the "war on drugs" has been a miserable failure that has been, for the most part, a footgun.
It is my understanding that neither Canada nor the USA allows for the importation of products containing THC, so I don't see this as having anything to do with Canada. Perhaps I do not understand what you mean to say?
Canada has pulled American liquor from sales as a tariff retaliation, so Kentucky bourbon sales have dropped considerably. Thus we have the senator from Kentucky trying to kill off domestic competitors for Kentucky liquor.
Re: Hemp ban hidden inside government shutdown bill
#205This is going to be controversial because it steps into the shutdown blame game. I think I am more interested in the mechanics of how this happens. Why do we need to attach riders / sneak in legislation? What changes could we make to the constitution to avoid this?
Playing devil's advocate, the positive of allowing legislation to include unrelated riders is that it promotes compromise. And compromise is how a healthy democracy should operate.
You don't need to have a bunch of unrelated riders to compromise. If the bill is healthcare funding, the compromise could be something like who receives the assistance, whether there are any cutoffs, how to implement it, etc.
Or if that's really impossible, you could compromise on separate bills. If people ever break promises, that's a reason not to trust them in the future and it's a lot more clear to the public about who voted which way rather than having a rider which no one really understands where it came from.
Re: Hemp ban hidden inside government shutdown bill
#206Earlier quoted context omitted.
A similar thing can be observed in Germany: the most anti-cannabis state is the state that produces the most alcohol (Bavaria)
Best of luck to them! I am not forced to inhale beer while walking down the street, yet there is seemingly always a pothead around.
Then you don't live, like me, in the Ballard neighborhood of seattle where there must be 50 microbreweries. Every few mornings the whole neighborhood smells like rotting bread. I'd be happy to run into someone smoking weed on the street during those times, I find that smell much more pleasent.
Re: Hemp ban hidden inside government shutdown bill
#207Earlier quoted context omitted.
A similar thing can be observed in Germany: the most anti-cannabis state is the state that produces the most alcohol (Bavaria)
Best of luck to them! I am not forced to inhale beer while walking down the street, yet there is seemingly always a pothead around.
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Re: Hemp ban hidden inside government shutdown bill
#208This is going to be controversial because it steps into the shutdown blame game. I think I am more interested in the mechanics of how this happens. Why do we need to attach riders / sneak in legislation? What changes could we make to the constitution to avoid this?
Playing devil's advocate, the positive of allowing legislation to include unrelated riders is that it promotes compromise. And compromise is how a healthy democracy should operate.
Compromise to what, to reopen the Government?
Re: Hemp ban hidden inside government shutdown bill
#209All of this stuff is already built around loopholes.
> But the provision that was inserted into the government funding bill makes illegal any hemp product that contains more than 0.4 milligrams of THC per container.
Now the online "hemp" industry will shift to selling gummies in "containers" that really equate to individually wrapped. You'll get bulk discounts for buying groups of 30 "containers", but what you get will feel like Japanese-style individual wrapping.
BTW: This was kinda-sorta what I encountered when I bought gummies in Ontario, Canada. The gummy was in a single "container" and had roughly ~0.4 mg THC.
Re: Hemp ban hidden inside government shutdown bill
#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
The compromise should be on the content of the bill specific to the subject. It is not a compromise to allow a rider that funnels money to some pet project. That is buying votes.
Oftentimes there can be no compromise on the specific subject. So the bill is either DOA or just immediately passed without any debate. Allowing several issues to be passed as a singular unit provides opportunity for an agreement to be made about several issues at once. Think of it like a Collective Bargaining Agreement.
That is fine. If our representatives can't come to a compromise then it probably shouldn't be done at the federal level.