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Re: Hemp ban hidden inside government shutdown bill

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Post by mothballed »

adamors wrote: post #68
dangus wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

8 individual Democrats. Don’t lump in the rest who held the line. You are “both sides”ing this when the GOP is the only side that worked tirelessly to end healthcare subsidies and allow America’s poorest to go hungry.

8 individual democrats, the exact number needed for the vote to pass, all of whom are either out the door or safe from reelection in 2026. Quite the coincidence.

I wonder what those 8 got in return? They are going to take a lot of flack, they must have demanded something. You don't get anywhere in politics by being the type of person who would just offer something for nothing.

Re: Hemp ban hidden inside government shutdown bill

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Post by iammjm »

candiddevmike wrote: post #149

The party of small government killing a new, billion dollar industry because Mitch McConnell's state beverage is seeing declining sales.

A similar thing can be observed in Germany: the most anti-cannabis state is the state that produces the most alcohol (Bavaria)

Re: Hemp ban hidden inside government shutdown bill

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Post by kccoder »

giantg2 wrote: post #102
whimsicalism wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm well aware of the reasoning for the design -- although I will point out that the notion of an extremely constrained federal government was controversial then, hardly consensus among the founding fathers. But the design clearly is not fit for where our society is or the direction it is moving, people have much more affiliation with the national entity than with the state entity, and it simply does not make sense t…

If you are from a smaller state, you would think it would still make sense. Otherwise the rural concerns just get steamrolled by the urban concerns. The point still stands about trying to level out concerns between smaller and larger states, which is why it was created with years of debate and a majority even if it wasn't consensus.

I'm from a smaller state and I don't think it makes sense. I'll take tyranny of the majority over tyranny of the minority any day of the week.

Re: Hemp ban hidden inside government shutdown bill

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Post by Herring »

dboreham wrote: post #48

These are all just symptoms. The underlying vulnerability is the median US culture, which permits venality, scamming, skuldugery, shenanigans and crime in its ruling class.

I was reading about Austria recently. It's a nice place, but it turns out they have their far-right Nazis in rural areas too. It's pretty common around the world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban%E2%80%93rural_political_...

I think the world is still figuring out how to deal with this. The German firewall looks quite interesting. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firewall_against_the_far-right...

Of course things like the electoral college, filibuster, gerrymandering, fptp, lifetime appointments etc don't help.

Re: Hemp ban hidden inside government shutdown bill

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Post by potato3732842 »

mothballed wrote: post #145
krapp wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What "urban concerns" and "rural concerns" are we talking about, specifically?

One in my state is solar panel legislation. You can't install solar panels in AZ without a permit and building plans and roof plans. That's all well and good in the city, but here in bumfuck nowhere I built a house with no building plans or roof plans. Why exactly did the majority of city dwellers pass this law without even considering people like me in bumfuck nowhere, who have as much or higher utility for solar pa…

Literally everything even vaguely construction-ish is rife with crap like this.

It would be one thing if people were actually asking for this regulation because they wanted it. They're mostly not. The trade groups, the professional organizations, the big industry players, they push it and the legislature just writes it knowing full well that the "lives somewhere with good schools" part of their electorate will go to bat for just about any regulation, the landlords can mostly afford it and tenants don't see the true cost. This just leaves the few non-wealthy homeowners (mostly in rural areas where homes are still cheap-ish) and slumlords to complain and so the legislature knows they have nothing to fear at election time.

I don't even live somewhere rural. I live in a proper city. It's just poor enough that stupid rules like that are a massive drag on everyone who wants to do anything. It's hard to amortize needless BS into whatever it is you're doing when the local populace can't afford it.

Re: Hemp ban hidden inside government shutdown bill

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Post by Gunax »

This is going to be controversial because it steps into the shutdown blame game.

I think I am more interested in the mechanics of how this happens. Why do we need to attach riders / sneak in legislation? What changes could we make to the constitution to avoid this?

Re: Hemp ban hidden inside government shutdown bill

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Post by dfxm12 »

ratelimitsteve wrote: post #8

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Don't forget about the people who want to coverup the fact that our president is a pedophile, too.

The house got a nice paid vacation during the shutdown & Mike Johnson left an Arizona district without representation for weeks to this end.

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