So, meaningless fine, then back to doing it again.
Boring Company cited for almost 800 environmental violations in Las Vegas
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Re: Boring Company cited for almost 800 environmental violations in Las Vegas
#202Earlier quoted context omitted.
There was a CityNerd video (which you may take or leave in general, but I found the anecdote interesting) in which there appeared to be one vehicle in service on the entire system: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPjODKUxV5g I assume though that they would adjust the capacity depending on time of day and whether there's an event or something going on, to some degree.
Thanks for sharing this, I had understood prior to this video that the combo of self driving tech + dedicated tunnels might have capacity that rival a light rail system like Seattle has but that's clearly not the case in the current system. I'm curious why more of the autonomous driving tech isn't being used in what I might have thought would be an "easier" place to do it.
They come to the surface to switch tunnels and Tesla FSD is not a viable technology for automated driving beyond a sunny highway.
Re: Boring Company cited for almost 800 environmental violations in Las Vegas
#203All this so a handful of passengers a week can wait for the extremely small pool of vehicles in a dusty hole
I just hope there is never a battery fire down there, because there appears to be no evacuation tunnel or safety procedures. I don't think you can even get the car doors open in the tunnel.
Or a flash flood. The only other tunnels we have here in Vegas are storm drains, and for good reason.
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This is a fleet of sometimes-self-driving vehicles following a nearly straight route in a closed environment with very few variables. There's little to describe "progress" or "technology" in this.
Apparently the Vegas loop cars are all driven by a human driver currently.
Re: Boring Company cited for almost 800 environmental violations in Las Vegas
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The consequence being additional underground public transport?
isn't this for cars? as in, private transport? and isn't it specifically for one brand of car?
From what I've seen, there are cars (telsa's) driving in a circle and you grab the next one available. Right now someone is driving it but at some point it's supposed to be autonomous. I think when the tunnel was first built you could drive your own car through it but as far as I'm aware they're not doing that anymore (I think it was just a publicity thing before the tunnels were close enough to completion to use).
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#206Earlier quoted context omitted.
Indeed! I think the Vegas loop has immense potential. There are many ways we can iterate on this concept. Perhaps we can use bigger cars, in a bus like shape to transport more people at once. Or we could remove the batteries to save cost and weight and supply the cars with an external power source. There is immense potential here and I believe this will revolutionise transport.
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It's not about building the perfect thing, it's about not building the dumb thing that blocks discussion of building something that will actually work. What's currently built is not even workable, IMO, let alone anywhere near perfect.
Re: Boring Company cited for almost 800 environmental violations in Las Vegas
#207Earlier quoted context omitted.
>It's not clear if these violations actually represent a real environmental hazard or are more reflective of NIMBY degrowth sentiment. >it's not clear if you know what environmental regulations are or if you are just shilling for polluting billionaires. This is pretty clearly an escalation beyond what you're describing. e: Because you did already read these lines, I guess I should spell this out: the former says we c…
You did not include the more equivalent quote from the OP in my view: > The tricky thing about environmental regulations is that they are crafted and utilized by NIMBYs to block any infrastructure development This doesn't just say we can't trust a datapoint, it starts with a position premised on bad faith motivations for all environmental regulations. Still not totally equivalent, but I don't think the original comme…
A charitable reading of their comment would be that they meant NIMBYs write and use environmental regulations to stunt development, rather than that there is no such thing as a legitimate environmental regulation. It's definitely poorly phrased in a way that lends itself to the uncharitable interpretation, but their subsequent remarks are very clear that they don't agree with that.
As you note, even the uncharitable interpretation isn't equivalent- you say 'not totally equivalent' but they're different quite critically in that the one is attacking a political position and some laws and the other is attacking an individual person on this forum.
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everybody knew and voiced their knowledge before, during, and after the Vegas tunnel that Boring Co and the Hyperloop were just bad concepts. You didn't need to waste money to try it, because it's not new tech. It's a tunnel. It's a solution to traffic. It's for riders, not drivers. But instead of calling it a train and therefore being _lame_, you slap a fresh coat of paint on it with _self driving cars_ and _insane_…
Ok, so they should build a train/subway. Who has done this? Is anyone doing it? If not, why? Should we stop all other projects that are short of the perfect solution?
I can almost hear the sea lion barks from here.
Re: Boring Company cited for almost 800 environmental violations in Las Vegas
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It's confusing how someone who has tried to build anything of substance, in say California, couldn't have run into a regulation or ten stifling innovation. I for one have seen mid-5 figures spent on a dumpster enclosure, because of building codes.
Stifled by a dumpster!!!
Yes. 5 figures were lit on fire, for a dumpster. Two, technically.
Do you intend that isn't stifling, that a regulatory environment that requires spending 5 figured to house 2 dumpsters isn't stifling?
Re: Boring Company cited for almost 800 environmental violations in Las Vegas
#210800 environment violations in service of the development of modern subterranean transportation is a utilitarian trade I'll take any day of the week.
I would agree with you if that's what the Boring Company is doing.
I suggest you actually look into what the the Boring Company's roads in Las Vegas actually are.
What you image as subterranean transportation isn't even what BC is striving for.