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Re: Ruby Central's Attack on RubyGems [pdf]

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Post by observationist »

julik wrote: post #68
bradgessler wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It reads like lawyers and auditors took over RubyCentral.

* Get appointed as paid managers of a non-profit * Get advice from legal * Legal suggests removing long-term maintainers without liability contract the same way people get fired: immediately and instantly, and screw the consequences. "Open-source? Never heard of it. Protect your entity legally" * Instantly follow the advice of the lawyers to the letter. Well done, well done.

Aim it right at my foot?

Are you sure?!

Well, ok, I'm not a lawyer, but... ok, fine, let's do it!

Re: Ruby Central's Attack on RubyGems [pdf]

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Post by [deleted] »

beachy wrote: post #173
bakugo wrote: post #154

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No, inaction is inaction. Claiming otherwise is just a roundabout way of saying "you must actively support my agenda at all times, otherwise I will consider you my enemy, even if you take a neutral stance" that political activists love to use to pressure normal people into supporting them.

Also consider that many people are not in the US and are not obliged to wade into US politics.

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Re: Ruby Central's Attack on RubyGems [pdf]

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Post by observationist »

blibble wrote: post #123
bradgessler wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It reads like lawyers and auditors took over RubyCentral.

it's the professional management class at it again see: mozilla, nominet (recovered, thankfully)

Mozilla is toast. It basically exists as a tax writeoff for Google at this point, and serves no recognizable purpose beyond that, and maybe nostalgia.

How MBAs aren't synonymous with leeches by this point is the most amazing ongoing PR campaign in history. They do nothing but suck and suck and suck, and they keep sucking, and they will never stop sucking until their host dies, and then they just move on.

Re: Ruby Central's Attack on RubyGems [pdf]

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Post by simonw »

angoragoats wrote: post #187
simonw wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why did you include that list of sponsors at the bottom of your post? What's with the "contingent on employment status or ideological alignment" bit about? That's not been mentioned anywhere else so far. Were those parts (or indeed your entire comment) written with the help of an LLM?

> Why did you include that list of sponsors at the bottom of your post? The paragraph immediately preceding the list begins with a sentence mentioning the sponsors. How did you not see this? > What's with the "contingent on employment status or ideological alignment" bit about? That's not been mentioned anywhere else so far. “not been mentioned anywhere else” is false. If you click on the PDF linked to in this very p…

I'm quick to question precisely because I can see LLM telltale hints in the text - in this case the "not just X but Y" pattern.

I don't mind if it's LLM-assisted text if everything in it is a reviewed and accurate representation of the point the author is trying to make.

But if the LLM throws in extra junk tha distracts from the conversation and the author fails to catch that in review, that's bad.

I think it's likely I was mistaken here - that the author either didn't use an LLM or used it for minor style tweaks but ensured that it was making the points they wanted to make.

Re: Ruby Central's Attack on RubyGems [pdf]

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Post by konnorrogers »

wild_egg wrote: post #126
mperham wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I clarified the toot.

Didn't RC drop DHH from RailsConf because of his views? Seems weird to think they're collaborate on a coup or whatever is being suggested here.

They dropped him as keynote speaker a few years ago, and then under new leadership, brought DHH back for the final RailsConf hosted by Ruby Central this year.

The Ruby Central that dropped him is not the same people running Ruby Central today.

https://ruby.social/@rubycentral/114585914969796428

Re: Ruby Central's Attack on RubyGems [pdf]

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Post by cogman10 »

15155 wrote: post #199
cogman10 wrote: post #141

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Don't write long blog posts about how your country doesn't have enough white people (and should start deporting brown people) and you won't be called a white supremist. Pretty simple.

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Re: Ruby Central's Attack on RubyGems [pdf]

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Post by cogman10 »

bigstrat2003 wrote: post #197
cogman10 wrote: post #141

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Don't write long blog posts about how your country doesn't have enough white people (and should start deporting brown people) and you won't be called a white supremist. Pretty simple.

Or maybe don't call someone names corresponding to behavior that they haven't endorsed.

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Re: Ruby Central's Attack on RubyGems [pdf]

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Post by swat535 »

ilikepi wrote: post #104

There is some more context on a post[1] in /r/ruby, including the fact that the maintainers and others had been working on a proposal[2] for a formalized organizational governance structure as recently as yesterday. The latter also adds some context into Mike McQuaid's involvement: the proposal was influenced by the structure put in place by the Homebrew project. [1]: https://old.reddit.com/r/ruby/comments/1nkzszc/ru…

Also notable reply from DHH:

"Ruby Central has been the RubyGems maintainer and operator since the beginning. They paid people to work on it (including this now disgruntled former contractor).

They're improving their practices and protocols. This is good."

https://x.com/dhh/status/1969168477475786830

Re: Ruby Central's Attack on RubyGems [pdf]

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Post by konnorrogers »

choilive wrote: post #163
jacques_chester wrote: post #98

At Shopify I was the person who first proposed that we needed to stump up $$$ for RubyGems (and only by implication Ruby Central). This is not what I had in mind and now I'm embarrassed that I helped make it possible.

Sounds like Shopify has some leverage then to open a line of comms with Ruby Central. "Explain yourselves or we will pull funding"

If that's the case, sounds contradictory to their status as a 501c3 and could get their tax exempt status pulled if it's true.

Re: Ruby Central's Attack on RubyGems [pdf]

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Post by lstodd »

derefr wrote: post #188
lstodd wrote: post #180

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Inaction is a manifestation of one of two things: ignorance, or conscious decision to not act. I agree that strictly only the latter can be considered an act, while the former .. well. Not an act, but a then the question arises if an unconscious person can even be considered a person _in_relation_to_having_a_conversation_with_them_. That last point I must even more press. I think this is what we are discussing. Pleas…

> Inaction is a manifestation of one of two things: ignorance, or conscious decision to not act. Under which of these categories would you classify the following assertion: > As much as I've learned about subject X, I still feel that neither I — nor most people who are already acting, for that matter — truly have enough information to take an informed stance here, as the waters are being actively clouded by propagand…

> I also do not highly prioritize gaining any more information about the situation

You acknowledge your ignorance and then refuse to remedy that.

This is an act. Perfectly acceptable and understandable. But what is more important it's deliberate and you accept responsibility for any and all consequences.

> I suppose I may differ from the average person in at least one way — that being that, if I were tricked into harming innocent parties, I would hold myself to account for allowing myself to be tricked, rather than externalizing blame to the party responsible for tricking me.

Very commendable. I wish more people held themselves to this standard. It is one of the foundations of learning after all.

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