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Hosting a website on a disposable vape

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Re: Hosting a website on a disposable vape

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I see that as of the time of this comment, he hasn't run Doom on it. Yet?

I see that as of the time of this comment, he hasn't run Doom on it. Imagine a Beowulf cluster of them…

I was just thinking about that slashdot meme the other day. Like Beowulf clusters were the dream! Imagine one! I wanted one! Everybody did!

And now you can spin that shit up for pennies an hour and then throw it all away when you are done.

Who would have seen that coming back in, what, 1998…

Re: Hosting a website on a disposable vape

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I mean disposable vapes are just complete idiocy to begin with. Vapes with pods are less expensive in the long run and offer a vastly superior vaping experience. You can get liquid for dirt cheap. If you smoke heavily, you might offset the initial investment in a week or two. Disposable vapes offer zero advantages. They are only good if you want to "just try" it once or that is what you are going to tell yourself in…

What they offer is ubiquity and the turnkey nature. You can walk into any nearby smoke shop, get one and use it immediately. You don't have to carry around a bottle of liquid and extra coils and paper towels/napkins for the inevitable leak. I stopped vaping a little while ago but when I did vape, there was no clear standard of pod systems. You sure could walk into a nearby smoke shop but it was unlikely that you'd fi…

While I do believe that disposable vapes should be banned even if they happen to be more convenient, I really don't see it. When I vaped myself I liked having a re-usable vape so much more than the disposable crap.

With the disposable it would always be a gamble how long they would last. I don't get how people manage. Do they buy multiples at once and carry them around?

It was so much more convenient to carry that small bottle of liquid with me and have the peace of mind that I wouldn't run out of juice for the night. Never had issues with spilled liquid.

Not having a standard for pods sucks but you don't need to buy them that often. I just ordered them online anyway.

Of course it might be a bit of a cultural difference as well. Most of my smoker friends roll their own cigarettes which is way more inconvenient.

Re: Hosting a website on a disposable vape

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Re-using this sort of device is super cool. I can imagine a post-apocalyptic scenario where a city is run on a hodgepodge of random computing devices like this. I will say, though, disposable vapes with microcontrollers inside (and even full games and screens from recent reporting) are an egregious source of e-waste. Many layers of stupid are present here.

I've been aware about the perfectly reusable lithium batteries inside these disposable vapes, which is egregious enough. But the one in the FTA comes with a full fat microcontroller and USB-C connector! I'm not clear if these connectors are accessible outside or if you need to break open the packaging before being able to get to it. Like you said: "Many layers of stupid are present here" All that hardware must surely…

>All that hardware must surely be worth more than half the value of the actual product!

I'm constantly struck at how bread (a pastry, say) in a plastic tray, wrapped in plastic, is so crazy to me. The effort and technology that went, and goes, into oil extraction and such - only to throw the packaging away immediately that I get home ... it's just so unsustainable.

I wonder when in the West we'll start mining rubbish dumps ('refuse sites' where household waste is buried)? Maybe we already have? I know in developing countries people spend their days manually picking over such places.

Re: Hosting a website on a disposable vape

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You throw away your smoke detector? Just replace the battery. My guy is out here pulling off the whole thing and tossing it in the trash.

Yes, Smoke Alarms should be thrown away. The element that detects smoke has a 10-year maximum life span, which is exactly why most have moved to a non-replaceable battery that forces you to throw it away (for safety).

I'm going to need to see some data to back up that claim. Americium-241 has a half-life of 432.6 years. The detector itself isn't going to degrade in any meaningful way after only 10 years.

Plus, many smoke alarms these days use a photoelectric sensor which don't wear out but are prone to false alarms from dust, etc. Smoke alarms SHOULD be cleaned at least once a year, by blasting them with compressed air. Dust buildup is a very common reason that smoke alarms stop working as well after any number of years. They require regular cleaning, just like everything else in the house.

Non-replaceable battery smoke alarms are popular because they are much more convenient to own. And you should NOT throw them away, the batteries in these contain lithium and must be recycled.

Re: Hosting a website on a disposable vape

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The fact that selling such a thing is profitable means that we lack regulations somewhere.

>The fact that selling such a thing is profitable means that we lack regulations somewhere. It's the exact opposite. Tobacco is so heavily regulated and taxed that these become profitable. If cigarettes were 3-4$ a pack (which they would be without sin taxes and regulatory overhead), the vape market would come down as well and there's no way these could be profitable. As it is, they retail around $20 and contain the…

You can get 10 packs for 20$CAD on reservations in Canada, and that's for decent cigarettes in packaging, the really cheap ones in ziploc bags go even cheaper. 3-4$ a pack is still a decent markup.

Re: Hosting a website on a disposable vape

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I feel like a law saying "don't put electronics in disposable products" would do the job.

Almost every electronic device becomes disposable at some point, some sooner than others. Just make sure you bring them to an e-waste bin when that time comes. E-waste recycling is a profitable business, so there's always one nearby in my experience. If you have some old Samsung Galaxy Gio from 2011, it'll provide far more value by recycling it back to raw materials than it would if you'd somehow try to keep it usabl…

> Almost every electronic device becomes disposable at some point

And we're all gonna die, why would we have laws at all?

When we say "disposable vape", it's not to say "it will eventually stop working". It's more to say "you use it, you throw it away".

> E-waste recycling is a profitable

I don't doubt it's profitable, but it's most certainly not a good thing for the planet. Recycling is generally not a solution to waste.

> The problem here is planned obsolescence in a product's design. That is what needs to be made illegal.

Seriously? We're talking about DISPOSABLE VAPES. They are built to last as short a time as possible. At this point I am not sure if you think you disagree with me, are just nitpicking for the fun of it, or something else?

Re: Hosting a website on a disposable vape

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post #85

Re-using this sort of device is super cool. I can imagine a post-apocalyptic scenario where a city is run on a hodgepodge of random computing devices like this. I will say, though, disposable vapes with microcontrollers inside (and even full games and screens from recent reporting) are an egregious source of e-waste. Many layers of stupid are present here.

I do wonder if there would be a workable law where companies are permanently responsible for what they produce, they must always accept back and responsibly recycle/break down to resources what they put out there, and do away with the shifting of responsibility of waste to society? Seems like a terrible engineering challenge but the right thing to do.

Re: Hosting a website on a disposable vape

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I feel like a law saying "don't put electronics in disposable products" would do the job.

What about Smoke Detectors, since they too are a disposable electronic?

Do I misunderstand what we mean with "disposable vapes"? It's not the first such comment I see.

When we talk about "disposable vapes", we don't talk about something that lasts 10 years, do we?

Or do you think that the very word "disposable" should not exist, because after all, nothing will last longer than the sun?

Re: Hosting a website on a disposable vape

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post #95

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I've been aware about the perfectly reusable lithium batteries inside these disposable vapes, which is egregious enough. But the one in the FTA comes with a full fat microcontroller and USB-C connector! I'm not clear if these connectors are accessible outside or if you need to break open the packaging before being able to get to it. Like you said: "Many layers of stupid are present here" All that hardware must surely…

>All that hardware must surely be worth more than half the value of the actual product! I'm constantly struck at how bread (a pastry, say) in a plastic tray, wrapped in plastic, is so crazy to me. The effort and technology that went, and goes, into oil extraction and such - only to throw the packaging away immediately that I get home ... it's just so unsustainable. I wonder when in the West we'll start mining rubbish…

The cheapness of plastic just to speaks to the enormous demand for all the other oil products sold, it's practically a byproduct.
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